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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH 0/2] Selective queue enabling
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 17:48:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230613173837-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54811F91C70744E7A83BD10ADC55A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 09:09:05PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 3:55 PM
> > 
> > I do not get how.  Let's make sure we are talking about the same thing.
> > This is what I am saying:
> > 
> > Start operating:
> > 
> > - program queue address, size
> > - queue_enable
> > 
> > Now we change our mind about queue size or address. So:
> > 
> > - queue_reset
> 
> Why queue_reset is needed here?
> I don't see spec saying that queue_enable must be done only once for a given Q before DRIVER_OK.

I see you found it.

> > - program another queue address, size
> > 
> > Finally we are decided, let's start operating:
> > 
> > - DRIVER_OK
> > 
> > 
> > I don't see how it's possible with just queue_enable.
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > It is not explicitly mentioned in the spec that one can setup the queue using
> > queue reset instead of queue enable.
> > > As Jason mentioned it is implementation specific, one device supports it and
> > one doesn't.
> > > Hence, it will break on those devices which doesnt support it.
> > >
> > 
> > Setup? No, and spec explicitly says to setup one has to use queue_enable. But
> > this is not what we discussed with Stefano here.
> > 
> The above sequence you described is not well documented.

It's the standard sequence for queue reset, is it not?

For example:

	Virtqueue reset is divided into two parts. The driver first resets a queue and
	can afterwards optionally re-enable it.


it seems clear that queue has to be enabled before being reset.



> > > Therefore, I would like to add it to the spec.
> > > "queue_reset register MUST be accessed by the driver only after device has
> > reached the DRIVER_OK stage."
> > 
> > I don't think we can add MUST requirements after the proposal is in the
> > released spec. If device has stricter requirements than the spec then it's not
> > compliant.
> >
> Lets resolve above question first about how many times one can use queue_enable before DRIVER_OK for a specific VQ.
> Without this either way driver and device combination is broken when queue_reset is used before DRIVER_OK.

I'm not sure what's broken.


If VIRTIO_F_RING_RESET has been negotiated, after the driver writes 1 to
\field{queue_reset} to reset the queue, the driver MUST NOT consider queue
reset to be complete until it reads back 0 in \field{queue_reset}. The driver
MAY re-enable the queue by writing 1 to \field{queue_enable} after ensuring
that other virtqueue fields have been set up correctly. The driver MAY set
driver-writeable queue configuration values to different values than those that
were used before the queue reset.


So the limitation is that it happens after FEATURES_OK.


-- 
MST


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-13 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-06 17:55 [virtio-comment] [PATCH 0/2] Selective queue enabling Eugenio Pérez
2023-06-06 17:55 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH 1/2] virtio: introduce selective " Eugenio Pérez
2023-06-06 18:04   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 19:19     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 19:25       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-08 11:53         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-08 13:15           ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-08 15:05             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08 15:07               ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-08 15:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08 12:11       ` [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-08 13:21         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-08 14:18         ` [virtio-comment] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-08 14:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-09  3:53           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-06 19:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-13  7:50   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-13  8:28     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-06 17:55 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH 2/2] virtio: pci support virtqueue selective enabling Eugenio Pérez
2023-06-06 19:09   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  7:37     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-07  9:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  9:46         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-06 19:09 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH 0/2] Selective queue enabling Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  5:35   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-07  8:22     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-07  8:47       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-07  8:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  9:41           ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-07 20:26             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08  0:44               ` Jason Wang
2023-06-08  6:04                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08  6:43                   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-08  7:18                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08  7:47                       ` Jason Wang
2023-06-08 13:44                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08  8:36                       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-08 14:13                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-08 22:08                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-09 10:27                           ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-09 15:54                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-12  7:56                               ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-13  7:46                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-13  7:53                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-13 10:12                                     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-13 12:28                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-15  8:35                                         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-16 14:40                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-17 12:53                                             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-17 23:08                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-24 18:40                                                 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-25  5:31                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-25 21:32                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-26  2:53                                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-06-26  8:19                                                         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-26  9:40                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-27  8:07                                                             ` Jason Wang
2023-06-13 19:00                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-13 19:54                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-13 21:09                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-13 21:19                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-13 21:48                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-06-13 21:54                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-14  4:26                                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-14  4:32                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-14  6:11                                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-14 11:56                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-15  5:56                                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-16  9:19                                                           ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-06-08  7:46                   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-06 18:18 ` [virtio-comment] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-07-10  3:55   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-10  5:49     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10 12:13       ` Parav Pandit
2023-07-11  3:09         ` Jason Wang
2023-07-11  3:08       ` Jason Wang

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