From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"hengqi@linux.alibaba.com" <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>,
"xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v3 2/2] content: Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK stage
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:24:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231026022349-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54811806D9195E8611DBF7F3DCDDA@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 06:02:28AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
>
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 11:10 AM
>
> >
> > shorter: i.e. after FEATURES_OK is set and before DRIVER_OK is set.
>
> Ok.
>
> > If VIRTIO_F_RING_DYNAMIC is negotiated,
> > the driver can choose to enable some virtqueues after DRIVER_OK is set.
> Ok. will take this simpler version.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > +enable every virtqueue it wants to use before setting the
> > > > > > +DRIVER_OK status bit; the driver can choose to enable a
> > > > > > +virtqueue even after the driver has set the DRIVER_OK status bit.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >> The virtqueue enable
> > > > > > +mechanism is
> > > > > > transport specific.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I still feel there is no real explanation in a transport agnostic manner what does
> > it mean to "enable" virtqueue. Do you maybe just mean "configure virtqueue"?
> >
> There is explanation of "re-enabling" a virtqueue in section " Virtqueue Re-enable".
>
> There is no good example of "configured" in generic section either, other than cleanup and mmio section.
>
> >
> > Can we just avoid talking about "enabling"?
> > Is it true that you can basically change anything you want about the vq not just
> > the enable bit? If so talking about enabling is just confusing I think.
> Not really.
> Enabling sequence of a virtqueue for pci and mmio transport is:
>
> 1. select a q
> 2. program the addresses
> 3. set the enable bit
>
> However, as I think more, this one-way interface of driver instructing the device without any error code and without any response is just too limiting interface.
> I will be dropping this series that misuses the config registers beyond its intended init time use.
>
> Let me work on more mature interface that solves following challenges.
> 1. ability to create a virtqueue dynamically after driver_ok
> 2. ability to create virtqueue with one or multiple physical addresses
> 3. ability for the device to return error if it cannot create dynamic vq creation
>
> The question is, do we need this generic facility beyond virtio-net?
Wow, sounds rather complex.
--
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-02 5:15 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 0/2] Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK Parav Pandit
2023-10-02 5:16 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 1/2] conformance: Add missing virtqueue reset conformance references Parav Pandit
2023-10-05 16:53 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-02 5:16 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 2/2] content: Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK stage Parav Pandit
2023-10-05 16:53 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-12 6:39 ` [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-17 12:25 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-17 12:48 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 10:25 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-18 10:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 11:03 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-18 11:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 11:12 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 13:57 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 13:29 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 13:57 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 14:00 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 14:27 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 14:53 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 15:01 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 15:21 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 9:55 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 10:18 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-25 10:20 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 10:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26 3:30 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 5:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26 6:02 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 6:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-10-26 6:47 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 8:27 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-26 8:38 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 9:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26 9:24 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 9:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26 9:45 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-27 10:13 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-27 10:28 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-27 11:46 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-27 11:55 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 9:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26 9:22 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02 5:20 ` [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v3 0/2] Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 4:57 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-16 16:30 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17 11:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-17 12:50 ` Parav Pandit
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