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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"hengqi@linux.alibaba.com" <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: RE: [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v3 2/2] content: Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK stage
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 12:13:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msw4s794.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481F967B7040B19272D1253DCDDA@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Oct 26 2023, Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com> wrote:

>> From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 2:58 PM
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 09:24:06AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> >
>> > > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 2:46 PM
>> >
>> > > > So, this will still provide the unified approach when/if needed on
>> > > > other
>> > > devices.
>> > >
>> > > What do you want to know? Whether dynamically adding/deleting queues
>> > > is useful generally? For example, queue per CPU is not uncommon to
>> > > avoid need for locks. In the presence of CPU hotplug, the natural
>> > > thing to do is to add/delete them.
>> > So for those devices who care for such performance, it is reasonable for them
>> to have the cvq providing channel for complex and dynamic commands.
>> 
>> Again, let's please not waste time adding this piecemeal to each device type,
>> this is clearly a generic thing that belongs in the core.
>
> Maybe I didn't explain well.
>
> I am proposing a generic way for all device types as following.
> 1. create cvq as main communication channel for resource create/destroy
> 2. create resource dynamically using this cvq
>
> These are common commands defined across all device types in basic facilities section.
> Those devices which has cvq, they define how to transport these generic defined commands.
> Those devices which do not have cvq, but when they need dynamic resources, they will define and create one cvq.
> As such devices will likely need more than just dynamic vq creation, for which it will need cvq anyway.

I think that is too complicated: not all devices will want to add a
control vq for resource management, especially if other mechanisms are
already in use. Just using a generic mechanism guarded by a feature bit
seems much simpler.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-27 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-02  5:15 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 0/2] Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK Parav Pandit
2023-10-02  5:16 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 1/2] conformance: Add missing virtqueue reset conformance references Parav Pandit
2023-10-05 16:53   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-02  5:16 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 2/2] content: Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK stage Parav Pandit
2023-10-05 16:53   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-12  6:39   ` [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-17 12:25   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-17 12:48     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 10:25       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-18 10:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 11:03           ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-18 11:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 11:12             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 13:57               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 13:29                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 13:57                   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 14:00                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 14:27                       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 14:53                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 15:01                           ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 15:21                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25  9:55                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 10:18                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-25 10:20                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 10:24                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  3:30                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  5:39                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  6:02                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  6:24                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  6:47                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  8:27                                         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-26  8:38                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  9:15                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  9:24                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  9:27                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  9:45                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-27 10:13                                                     ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2023-10-27 10:28                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-27 11:46                                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-27 11:55                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  9:18                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  9:22                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  9:26                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02  5:20 ` [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v3 0/2] Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK Parav Pandit
2023-10-10  4:57   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-16 16:30     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17 11:58       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-17 12:50         ` Parav Pandit

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