From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>,
Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
"virtio-comment @ lists . oasis-open . org"
<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
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<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
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Alvaro Karsz <alvaro.karsz@solid-run.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH] virtio-net: support per-queue coalescing moderation
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 15:48:06 -0500 [thread overview]
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On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 07:23:12PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> You are right. Two commands are there.
> Regardless the ambiguity remains
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> From: Parav Pandit
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 8:57 PM
> To: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Cc: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>; Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>;
> virtio-comment @ lists . oasis-open . org
> <virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>; virtio-dev @ lists . oasis-open . org
> <virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>; Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>; Alvaro
> Karsz <alvaro.karsz@solid-run.com>
> Subject: RE: [virtio-comment] [PATCH] virtio-net: support per-queue coalescing
> moderation
>
>
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 10:20 AM
>
> [..]
>
> > >
> > > Most performant data path wouldn't implement and read the extra mode.
> > > It is always fw that is going to program same value, or per queue valued or
> > disable value in each Q regardless whichever way we craft the CVQ cmd.
> > >
> > > The sequence that bothers me is below.
> > > 1. driver set global params
> > > 2. few minutes later, now driver set param for Q=1
> > >
> > > On this command, a device need to decide:
> > > Should Q = 2 to N
> > > (a) either work with previous globals, or
> > > (b) because per Q was set for one queue, they rest of the queues implicitly
> > disable it.
> > >
> > > If it is (b),
> > > When a command on Q object =1 is issued, it affects other Q objects. <-
> This I
> > want to avoid.
> > > A cmd that modifies the object, should only modify that object.
> > >
> > > If it is (a), it is mixed mode operation, which is ambiguous definition.
> > >
> > > A better semantic is to define such change at device level and no extra
> cost in
> > the data path.
> >
> > Ugh. Looks like I didn't explain it well, yet again :(.
> > Here is my proposal in pseudo-code:
> >
> >
> > if (cmd == VQ_SET)
> > vq[cmd.index].param = cmd.param;
> >
> > if (cmd == TX_SET)
> > for (i = 0; ++i; i < maxvqn / 2)
> > vq[i * 2].param = cmd.param;
> >
> > if (cmd == RX_SET)
> > for (i = 0; ++i; i < maxvqn / 2)
> > vq[i * 2 + 1].param = cmd.param;
> >
> >
> Currently we have cmd = GLOBAL_SET the code is:
>
> if (cmd == GLOBAL_SET)
> for (i = 0; i < maxvqn; i++)
> vq[i].param = cmd.param;
exactly.
> >
> > there's nothing to decide at all. No modes. TX_SET and RX_SET affect half
> vqs,
> > VQ_SET affects one vq.
> >
> I explained above that, when cmd=GLOBAL_SET and after that if driver issues cmd
> =VQ_SET, at that point, the device is in partial mode.
> One VQ is running with its own param, and rest are in global mode.
Because there's no "global mode" - it is always per queue and each queue
uses a set of parameters, that is all. No ambiguity. You can quickly set
them all with a special command, or you can set them one by one.
For example consider a driver that loops over all vqs
and does RX_SET(0). Are we in global mode, per queue mode or disabled
mode? The questions is pointless is it not?
--
MST
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-07 11:16 [virtio-comment] [PATCH] virtio-net: support per-queue coalescing moderation Heng Qi
2023-02-07 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] " Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-07 11:50 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-07 12:51 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-07 14:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 14:40 ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-07 14:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 14:56 ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-07 15:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 15:25 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-07 15:28 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 15:30 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 1:58 ` [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-08 2:20 ` Heng Qi
2023-02-08 9:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 13:51 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-07 14:06 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 14:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 1:45 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-08 2:20 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 2:24 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-08 2:43 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 10:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 13:52 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 11:30 ` Heng Qi
2023-02-08 14:17 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 14:37 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 14:42 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 14:44 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 14:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 15:04 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 15:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 15:27 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 19:23 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 20:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-02-08 17:53 ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-08 20:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 21:05 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 21:55 ` [virtio-dev] " Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-08 22:08 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 22:15 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 22:23 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 22:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 22:33 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 22:45 ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-08 22:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 22:35 ` [virtio-dev] " Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-08 22:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-09 0:06 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-09 3:16 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-08 22:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 21:22 ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-09 3:25 ` Heng Qi
2023-02-09 3:12 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-09 3:28 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-08 14:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 2:27 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-08 2:35 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-08 2:47 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 1:57 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-08 10:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 11:23 ` Heng Qi
2023-02-08 13:39 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 11:24 ` Heng Qi
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