From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Edmondson <david.edmondson@oracle.com>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
cohuck@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
nrupal.jani@intel.com, Piotr.Uminski@intel.com,
hang.yuan@intel.com, virtio@lists.oasis-open.org,
Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
pasic@linux.ibm.com, Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v10 02/10] admin: introduce device group and related concepts
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 10:13:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230209100903-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2zg9m284x.fsf@oracle.com>
On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 03:00:58PM +0000, David Edmondson wrote:
>
> On Thursday, 2023-02-09 at 07:13:36 -05, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > Each device group has a type. For now, define one initial group:
> >
> > SR-IOV type - PCI SR-IOV virtual functions (VFs) of a given
> > PCI SR-IOV physical function (PF). This group may contain one or more
> > virtio devices.
>
> The specification says zero or more generally and nothing to refine that
> for SR-IOV groups.
Well it says:
(SR-IOV) physical function (PF) device as the owner and includes
all its SR-IOV virtual functions (VFs) as members (see
\hyperref[intro:PCIe]{[PCIe]}).
how can that be zero?
> >
> > Each device within a group has a unique identifier. This identifier
> > is the group member identifier.
> >
> > Note: one can argue both ways whether the new device group handling
> > functionality (this and following patches) is closer
> > to a new device type or a new transport type.
> >
> > However, I expect that we will add more features in the near future. To
> > facilitate this as much as possible of the text is located in the new
> > admin chapter.
> >
> > I did my best to minimize transport-specific text.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > admin.tex | 49 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > content.tex | 2 ++
> > 2 files changed, 51 insertions(+)
> > create mode 100644 admin.tex
> >
> > diff --git a/admin.tex b/admin.tex
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 0000000..2bc7322
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/admin.tex
> > @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@
> > +\section{Device groups}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device groups}
> > +
> > +It is occasionally useful to have a device control a group of
> > +other devices. Terminology used in such cases:
> > +
> > +\begin{description}
> > +\item[Device group]
> > + or just group, includes zero or more devices.
> > +\item[Owner device]
> > + or owner, the device controlling the group.
> > +\item[Member device]
> > + a device within a group. The owner device itself is not
> > + a member of the group.
> > +\item[Member identifier]
> > + each member has this identifier, unique within the group
> > + and used to address it through the owner device.
> > +\item[Group type identifier]
> > + specifies what kind of member devices there are in a
> > + group, how is the member identifier is interpreted
> > + and what kind of control the owner has.
> > + A given owner can control a single group of a given type,
> > + thus the type and the owner together identify the group.
> > + \footnote{Even though some group types only support
> > + specific transports, group type identifiers
> > + are global rather than transport-specific -
> > + we don't expect a flood of new group types.}
> > +\end{description}
> > +
> > +The following group types, and their identifiers, are currently specified):
> > +\begin{description}
> > +\item[SR-IOV group type (0x1)]
> > +This device group has a PCI Single Root I/O Virtualization
> > +(SR-IOV) physical function (PF) device as the owner and includes
> > +all its SR-IOV virtual functions (VFs) as members (see
> > +\hyperref[intro:PCIe]{[PCIe]}).
> > +
> > +The PF device itself is not a member of the group.
> > +
> > +The group type identifier for this group is 0x1.
> > +
> > +A member identifier for this group can have a value 0x1 to 0xFFFF
> > +and equals the SR-IOV VF number of the member device (see
> > +\hyperref[intro:PCIe]{[PCIe]}).
> > +
> > +Both owner and member devices for this group type use the Virtio
> > +PCI transport (see \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus}).
> > +\end{description}
> > +
> > +
> > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > index 0c2d917..ffe45c4 100644
> > --- a/content.tex
> > +++ b/content.tex
> > @@ -491,6 +491,8 @@ \section{Exporting Objects}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Expo
> > types. It is RECOMMENDED that devices generate version 4
> > UUIDs as specified by \hyperref[intro:rfc4122]{[RFC4122]}.
> >
> > +\input{admin.tex}
> > +
> > \chapter{General Initialization And Device Operation}\label{sec:General Initialization And Device Operation}
> >
> > We start with an overview of device initialization, then expand on the
> --
> Tell her I'll be waiting, in the usual place.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-09 15:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-09 12:13 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 00/10] Introduce device group and device management Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-09 12:13 ` [PATCH v10 01/10] virtio: document forward compatibility guarantees Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-09 14:52 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " David Edmondson
2023-02-13 12:06 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-13 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-11 18:50 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-09 12:13 ` [PATCH v10 02/10] admin: introduce device group and related concepts Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-09 15:00 ` [virtio-comment] " David Edmondson
2023-02-09 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-02-09 15:22 ` David Edmondson
2023-02-09 17:47 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-09 19:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-12 12:10 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-12 13:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-12 14:34 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-12 20:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-12 22:49 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-13 8:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-13 9:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-02-13 10:55 ` [virtio] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-13 10:28 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-14 1:22 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-11 16:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-11 18:50 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-13 12:20 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-13 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-09 12:13 ` [PATCH v10 03/10] admin: introduce group administration commands Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-10 8:24 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-02-11 18:50 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-12 9:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-13 0:54 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-13 8:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-13 10:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-13 12:42 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-02-13 13:11 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-13 13:13 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-13 13:26 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-13 13:36 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-13 15:07 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-13 20:29 ` [virtio] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-14 9:01 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-14 1:18 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-14 7:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-14 16:44 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-14 21:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-15 4:46 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-15 5:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-13 12:37 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " David Edmondson
2023-02-15 5:17 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-15 5:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-09 12:13 ` [PATCH v10 04/10] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-11 18:50 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-09 12:13 ` [PATCH v10 05/10] pci: add admin vq registers to virtio over pci Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-11 18:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-13 12:21 ` [virtio-comment] " David Edmondson
2023-02-15 0:53 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-15 5:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-15 8:49 ` David Edmondson
2023-02-09 12:13 ` [PATCH v10 06/10] mmio: document ADMIN_VQ as reserved Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-11 18:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-15 0:56 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-09 12:13 ` [PATCH v10 07/10] ccw: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-13 12:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-15 0:58 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-09 12:14 ` [PATCH v10 08/10] admin: command list discovery Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-09 17:04 ` Uminski, Piotr
2023-02-11 18:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-13 5:41 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-02-13 12:27 ` [virtio-comment] " David Edmondson
2023-02-09 12:14 ` [PATCH v10 09/10] admin: conformance clauses Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-11 16:43 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-13 6:43 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-02-13 10:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-13 13:42 ` [virtio-comment] " David Edmondson
2023-02-09 12:14 ` [PATCH v10 10/10] ccw: document more reserved features Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-13 12:54 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-13 13:04 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-02-11 18:49 ` [PATCH v10 00/10] Introduce device group and device management Parav Pandit
2023-02-12 9:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-14 0:52 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
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