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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alvaro Karsz <alvaro.karsz@solid-run.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	hengqi@linux.alibaba.com, parav@nvidia.com,
	david.edmondson@oracle.com
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Fix and update VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTF_COAL feature
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 05:29:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230217052731-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJs=3_Bkg+hRTaV2ooZHwOib666yFzRGgVosd_pO7EsZHokf-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 12:21:17PM +0200, Alvaro Karsz wrote:
> > Looks good, thanks! Yet something to improve, see below:
> > > ---
> > > v2:
> > >       - Add the last 2 points to the patch.
> > >       - Rephrase the "commands are best-effort" note.
> > >       - Replace "notification" with "used buffer notification" to be
> > >         more consistent.
> > > v3:
> > >       - Add an intro explaining the entire coalescing operation.
> > > v4:
> > >       - Minor wording fixes.
> > >       - Rephrase the general note.
> > > v5:
> > >       - Replace virtio_net_ctrl_coal->usecs with
> > >         virtio_net_ctrl_coal->max_usecs
> > >
> > >  device-types/net/description.tex | 69 +++++++++++++++++++-------------
> > >  1 file changed, 41 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/device-types/net/description.tex b/device-types/net/description.tex
> > > index 1741c79..a4cff05 100644
> > > --- a/device-types/net/description.tex
> > > +++ b/device-types/net/description.tex
> > > @@ -1514,15 +1514,15 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
> > >  If the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTF_COAL feature is negotiated, the driver can
> > >  send control commands for dynamically changing the coalescing parameters.
> > >
> > > -\begin{lstlisting}
> > > -struct virtio_net_ctrl_coal_rx {
> > > -    le32 rx_max_packets;
> > > -    le32 rx_usecs;
> > > -};
> > > +\begin{note}
> > > +The behavior of the device in response to these commands is best-effort:
> > > +the device may generate notifications more or less frequently than specified.
> > > +\end{note}
> > >
> > > -struct virtio_net_ctrl_coal_tx {
> > > -    le32 tx_max_packets;
> > > -    le32 tx_usecs;
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +struct virtio_net_ctrl_coal {
> > > +    le32 max_packets;
> > > +    le32 max_usecs;
> > >  };
> > >
> > >  #define VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL 6
> > > @@ -1532,49 +1532,62 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
> > >
> > >  Coalescing parameters:
> > >  \begin{itemize}
> > > -\item \field{rx_usecs}: Maximum number of usecs to delay a RX notification.
> > > -\item \field{tx_usecs}: Maximum number of usecs to delay a TX notification.
> > > -\item \field{rx_max_packets}: Maximum number of packets to receive before a RX notification.
> > > -\item \field{tx_max_packets}: Maximum number of packets to send before a TX notification.
> > > +\item \field{max_usecs} for RX: Maximum number of usecs to delay a RX notification.
> > > +\item \field{max_usecs} for TX: Maximum number of usecs to delay a TX notification.
> >
> > we really should not abbreviate the description (field name is ok). usecs to delay -> microseconds
> > to delay, right? same elsewhere.
> >
> 
> Good point, thanks.
> 
> > > +\item \field{max_packets} for RX: Maximum number of packets to receive before a RX notification.
> > > +\item \field{max_packets} for TX: Maximum number of packets to send before a TX notification.
> > >  \end{itemize}
> > >
> > > -
> > >  The class VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL has 2 commands:
> > >  \begin{enumerate}
> > > -\item VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET: set the \field{tx_usecs} and \field{tx_max_packets} parameters.
> > > -\item VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET: set the \field{rx_usecs} and \field{rx_max_packets} parameters.
> > > +\item VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET: set the \field{max_usecs} and \field{max_packets} parameters for all the transmit virtqueues.
> > > +\item VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET: set the \field{max_usecs} and \field{max_packets} parameters for all the receive virtqueues.
> > >  \end{enumerate}
> > >
> > > -\subparagraph{RX Notifications}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Device Operation / Control Virtqueue / Notifications Coalescing / RX Notifications}
> > > +\subparagraph{Operation}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Device Operation / Control Virtqueue / Notifications Coalescing / Operation}
> > > +
> > > +The device sends a used buffer notification once the notification conditions are met, if the notifications are not suppressed as explained in \ref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Virtqueues / Used Buffer Notification Suppression}.
> > > +
> > > +When the device has non-zero \field{max_usecs} and non-zero \field{max_packets}, it starts counting usecs and packets upon receiving/sending a packet.
> > > +The device counts packets and usecs for each receive virtqueue and transmit virtqueue separately.
> > > +In this case, the notification conditions are met when \field{max_usecs} usecs elapses, or upon sending/receiving \field{max_packets} packets, whichever happens first.
> >
> > and should we maybe add: "both the timer and the packet counter then
> > reset until the next packet"?
> >
> 
> I didn't include the "device should reset the counters" part in the
> first place thinking that a device may implement the mechanism
> differently.
> For example, a device may have a variable holding the next usecs value
> to trigger a notification, and a free running counter.
> 
> Maybe
> "...  whichever happens first.
> After  the notification conditions are met, the device waits for the
> next packet and starts counting again."

sounds good. maybe "counting packets and microseconds"? to make clear
timer resets too.

> I don't really mind, If you think that the device implementation is
> not essential here and we should add your suggestion, I'm ok with
> that.

I don't mind, your proposal seems good too.

> > > +
> > > +When the device has \field{max_usecs} = 0 or \field{max_packets} = 0, the notification conditions are met after every packet received/sent.
> > > +
> > > +\subparagraph{RX Example}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Device Operation / Control Virtqueue / Notifications Coalescing / RX Example}
> > >
> > >  If, for example:
> > >  \begin{itemize}
> > > -\item \field{rx_usecs} = 10.
> > > -\item \field{rx_max_packets} = 15.
> > > +\item \field{max_usecs} = 10.
> > > +\item \field{max_packets} = 15.
> > >  \end{itemize}
> > > -
> >
> > in fact the below is true for each queue separately even for an MQ device
> > right? So I feel it's helpful if we include this in the example too. S:
> >
> > > -The device will operate as follows:
> > > -
> > > +then a device with a single receive virtqueue will operate as follows:
> >
> > we could make it e.g. s/a device/each receive virtqueue of a device/
> >
> >
> > >  \begin{itemize}
> > >  \item The device will count received packets until it accumulates 15, or until 10 usecs elapsed since the first one was received.
> >
> > s/received packets/packets received on each virtqueue/
> >
> >
> 
> Good points, thanks.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-16 14:56 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Fix and update VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTF_COAL feature Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-17  2:54 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-17  9:44 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-17 10:21   ` [virtio-dev] " Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-17 10:29     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-02-17 10:36       ` [virtio-comment] " Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-17 10:57         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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