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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] virtio-net: Describe dev cfg fields read only
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 13:07:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wn49aopg.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230222064936-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Wed, Feb 22 2023, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:01:24AM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 21 2023, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 05:59:52PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 12:52 PM
>> >> > 
>> >> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 05:50:09PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> >> > > Hence, it should be mentioned as read-only fields, so when the driver writes
>> >> > something to read-only fields, it can be considered as undefined behavior on
>> >> > such fields.
>> >> > >
>> >> > 
>> >> > In the description not in the normative statements. normative sections just tell
>> >> > driver what it must and must not do, in the standard RFC terms.
>> >> > 
>> >> Got it.
>> >> I will shift them as read-only in the description section.
>> >> And normative in the device and driver section.
>> >> Device section:
>> >> Any writes to config space fields is ignored by the device, because these are read-only fields for the driver.
>> >
>> > writes is plural so "are ignored"
>> >
>> > but more importantly use rfc terms in normative sections.
>> 
>> I don't think you need to talk about "read-only" in the normative
>> sections (that belongs to the descriptive sections.) I'd use
>> 
>> "The device MUST ignore any writes to config space fields by the
>> driver."
>
> Hmm. Is this something we previously required for read only fields?

So, better make it SHOULD?

(The only alternative to ignoring I see is breaking the device, and I
think ignoring is preferable.)

>
>
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> Driver section:
>> >> Driver must not write to read-only fields.
>> 
>> "The driver MUST NOT write to any config space field."


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-22 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-17 15:45 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 0/2] virtio-net: Improve dev config layout Parav Pandit
2023-02-17 15:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] virtio-net: Describe dev cfg fields read only Parav Pandit
2023-02-20 14:46   ` [virtio-dev] " David Edmondson
2023-02-21 15:37   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-21 17:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 17:50       ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 17:52         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 17:59           ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 18:08             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22  9:01               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-22 11:50                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 12:07                   ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2023-02-22 12:55                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 13:26                       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2023-02-23  5:50                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-17 15:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] virtio-net: Define cfg fields before description Parav Pandit
2023-02-20 14:42   ` [virtio-comment] " David Edmondson
2023-02-21 13:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] virtio-net: Improve dev config layout Parav Pandit
     [not found]   ` <875ybej6hb.fsf@redhat.com>
2023-03-07 17:25     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 10:07       ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck

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