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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Connor Kite" <connorkite@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Stefano Garzarella" <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 13/13] net/vhost-user: add memory isolation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:25:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260911162547.GA157639@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lda010j1.fsf@pond.sub.org>

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On Fri, Aug 21, 2026 at 07:54:26AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Connor Kite <connorkite@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 2:02 AM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Any guidance on when to enable it?
> >>
> > ...
> >
> >> Likewise.
> >>
> >
> > In both cases, you would enable this for added security.  There's
> > obviously a performance hit, but it prevents a potentially misbehaving
> > vhost-user backend from reading or modifying undesired portions of
> > guest memory, since data transfer occurs wholly via bounce buffers.
> > This may be more useful in the generic netdev vhost user case than it
> > is with the passt version, but the goal is for the mode to be
> > accessible for any vhost-user device.
> 
> Work this into the commit message, please.
> 
> > Do you think guidance is needed here in net.json?  I was thinking
> > that, if isolation-mode gets to a point of being merged, then
> > information like this would make sense somewhere in the online
> > documentation, but I'm happy to add something here as well.  I was
> > just trying to be similarly short and to-the-point as the other option
> > descriptions for these structs.
> 
> I think it needs to be somewhere in the user documentation.  We have so
> many configuration options, and so little guidance on what to do with
> them.
> 
> The doc comments in the QAPI schema are reference documentation (they go
> into the "QEMU QMP Reference Manual").  Reference documentation should
> be concise and to the point.  When you have more useful things to say
> than fit there, you need to find nother place, and maybe link to it from
> the reference docs.
> 
> I suggest to try adding brief guidance to the doc comment, and then we
> see how we feel about it.
> 

Here is the vhost-user documentation:
docs/system/devices/virtio/vhost-user.rst

You could add a section to this document explaining the memory isolation
feature.

Stefan

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      reply	other threads:[~2026-09-11 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-18  5:12 [PATCH RFC v2 00/13] vhost-user: isolated memory Connor Kite
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/13] vhost-user: Consolidate chardev property definitions Connor Kite
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/13] util/iova-tree: g_tree_foreach wrapper Connor Kite
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/13] hw/virtio: iova_tree_foreach wrapper Connor Kite
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/13] hw/virtio/vhost-shadow-virtqueue: used callback Connor Kite
2026-08-19  6:23   ` Akihiko Odaki
2026-08-20  1:06     ` Connor Kite
2026-08-20  5:15       ` Akihiko Odaki
2026-08-20 23:42         ` Connor Kite
2026-08-21  7:21           ` Akihiko Odaki
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/13] hw/virtio/vhost-shadow-virtqueue: specified vring placement Connor Kite
2026-08-25 14:26   ` Hanna Czenczek
2026-08-28 12:15   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2026-09-01 19:09     ` Connor Kite
2026-09-02  8:24       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/13] vhost-user: add memory_isolation to VhostUserState Connor Kite
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/13] hw/virtio/vhost-user: create isolation region Connor Kite
2026-08-19  7:36   ` Akihiko Odaki
2026-08-21  2:57     ` Connor Kite
2026-08-25 14:34   ` Hanna Czenczek
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/13] hw/virtio/vhost-user: send isolation regions to device Connor Kite
2026-08-18 11:31   ` Akihiko Odaki
2026-08-25 14:36   ` Hanna Czenczek
2026-08-28 12:29   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/13] hw/virtio/vhost-user: add shadow virtqueues and eventfd intercepts Connor Kite
2026-08-18 12:34   ` Akihiko Odaki
2026-08-20 20:38     ` Connor Kite
2026-08-25 14:48   ` Hanna Czenczek
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/13] hw/virtio/vhost-user: handle data movement with shadow vqs Connor Kite
2026-08-19  7:37   ` Akihiko Odaki
2026-08-28 12:24   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/13] vhost-user: Add memory-isolation qdev property to vhost-user devices Connor Kite
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/13] backends/cryptodev-vhost-user: add memory isolation bool Connor Kite
2026-08-20  9:00   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-08-18  5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/13] net/vhost-user: add memory isolation Connor Kite
2026-08-19  7:37   ` Akihiko Odaki
2026-08-20  1:22     ` Connor Kite
2026-08-20  9:02   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-08-21  0:39     ` Connor Kite
2026-08-21  5:54       ` Markus Armbruster
2026-09-11 16:25         ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]

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