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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 13:52:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aia6Xi-zyb1N-y_I@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aiaHd3T42XyB3UBn@lucifer>

On Mon, Jun 08, 2026 at 10:17:47AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 08, 2026 at 04:33:46AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > Further, on architectures with aliasing caches, upstream with init_on_alloc
> > double-zeros user pages: once via kernel_init_pages() in
> > post_alloc_hook, and again via clear_user_highpage() at the
> > callsite (because user_alloc_needs_zeroing() returns true).
> > This series eliminates that double-zeroing by moving the zeroing
> > into the post_alloc_hook + propagating the "host
> > already zeroed this page" information through the buddy allocator.
> >
> > For page reporting, VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEVICE_INIT_REPORTED (bit 6)
> > is used. For the inflate/deflate path,
> > VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEVICE_INIT_ON_INFLATE (bit 7) is used.
> >
> > Virtio spec: https://lore.kernel.org/all/cover.1778140241.git.mst@redhat.com
> >
> > Based on v7.1-rc6.  When applying on mm-unstable, two conflicts
> > are expected:
> > - kernel_init_pages() was renamed to clear_highpages_kasan_tagged()
> >   in mm-unstable.  Use clear_highpages_kasan_tagged() in the
> >   post_alloc_hook else branch.
> > - FPI_PREPARED uses BIT(3) in mm-unstable.  Bump FPI_ZEROED to
> >   BIT(4).
> > Build-tested on mm-unstable at e9dd96806dbc:
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mst/vhost.git zero-mm-unstable
> >
> > Patches 1-5: fixes/cleanups, dependencies of the zeroing patches.
> > Patches 6-9: thread user_addr through page allocator, contig API,
> >   and gigantic hugetlb allocation.
> > Patches 10-16: folio_zero_user in post_alloc_hook, vma_alloc_zeroed
> >   conversion, raw fault address threading.
> > Patches 17-24: PG_zeroed flag, aliasing guard, buddy merge/split
> >   tracking, FPI_ZEROED optimization, folio_put_zeroed.
> > Patches 25-27: __GFP_ZERO callsite conversions (alloc_anon_folio,
> >   vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd) with memcg charge failure mitigation.
> > Patches 28-29: hugetlb __GFP_ZERO + HPG_zeroed.
> > Patches 30-35: page reporting zeroing (DEVICE_INIT_REPORTED),
> >   disable indirect descriptors.
> > Patches 36-37: inflate/deflate zeroing (DEVICE_INIT_ON_INFLATE).
>
> This seems far too much for one series.
>
> YOu're doing a bunch of mm stuff that seems relatively independent, then
> putting the virtio stuff on top.
>
> I think this should be broken out into separate series laying foundations
> rather than doing it all in one go, which is also difficult for review
> purposes.
>
> Adding a new folio flag is contentious also for instance, we maybe want to
> go bit-by-bit and ensure that each foundational element is acceptable
> before doing the next bit rather than having it as part of a big series.
>
> Looking through the changelog only adds to this feeling! Huge numbers of
> changes, even relatively recently and I'm not sure all relevant maintainers
> in mm have had a look through either.
>
> Thanks, Lorenzo

Additionally, it seems you've missed/ignored (I hope not) a bunch of
pre-existing feedback, so it'd be helpful if you'd carefully go through
what people have previously asked!

Keeping track of that, especially on a big series, is a lot of work.

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-08 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-08  8:33 [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 01/37] mm: mempolicy: fix interleave index calculation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 02/37] mm: memory-failure: serialize TestSetPageHWPoison with zone->lock Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 13:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:14       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 16:20       ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 03/37] mm: page_alloc: propagate PageReported flag across buddy splits Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 04/37] mm: page_reporting: allow driver to set batch capacity Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 05/37] mm: hugetlb: remove dead alloc_hugetlb_folio stub Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:56   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 06/37] mm: move vma_alloc_folio_noprof to page_alloc.c Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:05   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 07/37] mm: thread user_addr through page allocator for cache-friendly zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 11:06     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 13:04       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 13:09         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 14:26           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:31             ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 14:37               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:44                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 14:55                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 11:08     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:27       ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 08/37] mm: add alloc_contig_frozen_pages_user " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 09/37] mm: hugetlb: thread user_addr through gigantic page allocation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 10/37] mm: add folio_zero_user stub for configs without THP/HUGETLBFS Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 11/37] mm: page_alloc: move prep_compound_page before post_alloc_hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 12/37] mm: use folio_zero_user for user pages in post_alloc_hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 15:53     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 13/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:39   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 10:55     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/37] mm: remove arch vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio overrides Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/37] mm: alloc_anon_folio: pass raw fault address to vma_alloc_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:35   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/37] mm: alloc_swap_folio: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 15:59     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/37] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:00   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 16:09     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 18/37] mm: page_alloc: use aliasing checks instead of user_alloc_needs_zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:39   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 19/37] mm: page_alloc: clear PG_zeroed on buddy merge if not both zero Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 20/37] mm: page_alloc: preserve PG_zeroed in page_del_and_expand Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 21/37] mm: page_alloc: propagate PG_zeroed in split_large_buddy Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 22/37] mm: add free_frozen_pages_zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:06   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 23/37] mm: page_alloc: skip kernel_init_pages for FPI_ZEROED when safe Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:18   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 24/37] mm: add put_page_zeroed and folio_put_zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:25   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:46     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:28         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 25/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in alloc_anon_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 26/37] mm: vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd: pass raw fault address to vma_alloc_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 27/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 28/37] mm: hugetlb: add gfp parameter and skip zeroing for zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:44   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 29/37] mm: memfd: skip zeroing for zeroed hugetlb pool pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 30/37] mm: page_reporting: add per-page zeroed bitmap for host feedback Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 31/37] virtio_balloon: submit reported pages as individual buffers Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 32/37] virtio_balloon: disable indirect descriptors Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 33/37] mm: page_reporting: add flush parameter with page budget Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 34/37] virtio_balloon: skip zeroing for host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 35/37] virtio_balloon: disable reporting zeroed optimization for confidential guests Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 36/37] mm: balloon: use put_page_zeroed for zeroed balloon pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:10   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 37/37] virtio_balloon: implement VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEVICE_INIT_ON_INFLATE Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:17 ` [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-06-08 11:02 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-08 11:13   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-08 15:45     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 17:50       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 14:21 ` Matthew Wilcox

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