From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: New design
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 02:18:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiewUFBRyDNoAMGd@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aiePVsiV-w-IZ8A4@casper.infradead.org>
On Tue, Jun 09, 2026 at 04:58:14AM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> OK, here's how I'd structure this:
>
> 1. Introduce PG_zeroed for buddy pages
> 2. Set it if init_on_free is set
> 3. Set it from balloon driver
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/c7094de807c0e963526686e1d245bc76193b1a92.1776689093.git.mst@redhat.com/
>
> but add FPI_ZEROED instead of an extra bool parameter.
>
> 4. Introduce page_is_zeroed like this:
>
> static inline bool page_is_zeroed(const struct page *page)
> {
> /*
> * lru.next has bit 2 set if the page is already zeroed.
> * Callers may simply overwrite it once they no longer
> * need to preserve that information.
> */
> return (unsigned long)page->lru.next & BIT(2);
> }
>
> (you'll notice this is similar to page_is_pfmemalloc() but it doesn't
> need to be in mm.h)
>
> This step is going to be a bit fiddly. We weren't expecting to return
> multiple flags in page->lru.next, so clear_page_pfmemalloc() just sets
> page->lru.next to NULL. So somewhere we need to make sure that
> page->lru.next is definitely NULL, and then allow both the zeroed and
> pfmemalloc flags to be set in it.
>
> The important part of this is that it allows the zeroed flag to be
> returned from the page allocator without introducing pghint_t like you
> did in v2.
>
Are you suggesting leaking the flags out entirely, or just to the
boundaries of page_alloc.c (__alloc_frozen_pages_noproft and etc).
I assume the latter, but worth clarifying.
Otherwise this seems reasonable.
If we're just going to pile more stuff in lru.next you might as well
either add the alias to mm.h but keep the bits defined in page_alloc.c
to prevent them from escaping (even if they end up set, nothing outside
page_alloc.c knows what any of them mean).
Unless my read on this is mistaken, let me know if i've misunderstood
anything.
> 5. Now you can start skipping various zeroing steps higher in the call
> chain.
>
> I understand David's disgust with vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio()
> but that is surely a separate cleanup and nothing to do with this
> patchset.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-09 6:19 UTC|newest]
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2026-06-08 8:33 [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:34 ` [PATCH v10 01/37] mm: mempolicy: fix interleave index calculation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 9:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:34 ` [PATCH v10 02/37] mm: memory-failure: serialize TestSetPageHWPoison with zone->lock Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 9:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 13:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 20:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 16:20 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-08 8:34 ` [PATCH v10 03/37] mm: page_alloc: propagate PageReported flag across buddy splits Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 9:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 8:34 ` [PATCH v10 04/37] mm: page_reporting: allow driver to set batch capacity Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:34 ` [PATCH v10 05/37] mm: hugetlb: remove dead alloc_hugetlb_folio stub Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 9:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:35 ` [PATCH v10 06/37] mm: move vma_alloc_folio_noprof to page_alloc.c Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:35 ` [PATCH v10 07/37] mm: thread user_addr through page allocator for cache-friendly zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 11:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 13:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 13:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 14:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 14:37 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 14:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-09 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 19:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 19:59 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:21 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 20:40 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 21:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 21:16 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 21:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 22:28 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 11:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:27 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 18:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:43 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 19:52 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:25 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:37 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:56 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 21:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:35 ` [PATCH v10 08/37] mm: add alloc_contig_frozen_pages_user " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:35 ` [PATCH v10 09/37] mm: hugetlb: thread user_addr through gigantic page allocation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:36 ` [PATCH v10 10/37] mm: add folio_zero_user stub for configs without THP/HUGETLBFS Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 9:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:36 ` [PATCH v10 11/37] mm: page_alloc: move prep_compound_page before post_alloc_hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:36 ` [PATCH v10 12/37] mm: use folio_zero_user for user pages in post_alloc_hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 15:53 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 19:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 20:16 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 20:53 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 21:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 21:33 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 21:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 21:53 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 19:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:36 ` [PATCH v10 13/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 10:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/37] mm: remove arch vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio overrides Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/37] mm: alloc_anon_folio: pass raw fault address to vma_alloc_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/37] mm: alloc_swap_folio: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 15:59 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/37] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 16:09 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 18:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:38 ` [PATCH v10 18/37] mm: page_alloc: use aliasing checks instead of user_alloc_needs_zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:38 ` [PATCH v10 19/37] mm: page_alloc: clear PG_zeroed on buddy merge if not both zero Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:38 ` [PATCH v10 20/37] mm: page_alloc: preserve PG_zeroed in page_del_and_expand Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:38 ` [PATCH v10 21/37] mm: page_alloc: propagate PG_zeroed in split_large_buddy Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:38 ` [PATCH v10 22/37] mm: add free_frozen_pages_zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:38 ` [PATCH v10 23/37] mm: page_alloc: skip kernel_init_pages for FPI_ZEROED when safe Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:38 ` [PATCH v10 24/37] mm: add put_page_zeroed and folio_put_zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:39 ` [PATCH v10 25/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in alloc_anon_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:39 ` [PATCH v10 26/37] mm: vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd: pass raw fault address to vma_alloc_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:39 ` [PATCH v10 27/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:39 ` [PATCH v10 28/37] mm: hugetlb: add gfp parameter and skip zeroing for zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:39 ` [PATCH v10 29/37] mm: memfd: skip zeroing for zeroed hugetlb pool pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 8:39 ` [PATCH v10 30/37] mm: page_reporting: add per-page zeroed bitmap for host feedback Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:39 ` [PATCH v10 31/37] virtio_balloon: submit reported pages as individual buffers Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:40 ` [PATCH v10 32/37] virtio_balloon: disable indirect descriptors Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:40 ` [PATCH v10 33/37] mm: page_reporting: add flush parameter with page budget Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:40 ` [PATCH v10 34/37] virtio_balloon: skip zeroing for host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:40 ` [PATCH v10 35/37] virtio_balloon: disable reporting zeroed optimization for confidential guests Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 8:40 ` [PATCH v10 36/37] mm: balloon: use put_page_zeroed for zeroed balloon pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:10 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 8:40 ` [PATCH v10 37/37] virtio_balloon: implement VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEVICE_INIT_ON_INFLATE Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 9:17 ` [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 11:02 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-08 11:13 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-08 15:45 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 17:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 19:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 20:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-09 3:58 ` New design Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-09 6:18 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-06-09 8:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-09 10:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-09 8:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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