[parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem

[parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem

[James P. Kinney III]

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My C160 is running the old, broken, no-working-pci, firmware version
2.1. The ftp://us-ffs.external.hp.com/firmware_patches/hp/cpu/ lists the
latest version (PF_CC2X0061) as 6.1. 

So I upgraded my firmware. Still no sti console nor X on frame buffer. I
can see in /proc that the frame buffers are running (stifb). When X
starts, it fails on a framebuffer call. 

When IPL

dmesg mentions: Dino: No PCI devices enabled.

Also, my processor is listed in firmware and docs as a PA8000. So why
not 64-bit cpu. If I boot the 2.4.16-64 kernel, it hangs after the
"branching" messege screen. 
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Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:34:35PM -0500, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> Also, my processor is listed in firmware and docs as a PA8000. So why
> not 64-bit cpu. If I boot the 2.4.16-64 kernel, it hangs after the
> "branching" messege screen. 

this must surely be a faq by now.  the c160-era workstations shipped
with 32-bit firmware, so it's much more sensible to run a 32-bit kernel
on them.  why do people think a 64-bit kernel is better?  it's slower and
takes more ram than a 32-bit kernel.  the only benefit it might offer
(being able to deal with >4gb of ram, or >4gb virtual address space)
aren't applicable -- you can't put that much ram in a c160, and we don't
support 64-bit user processes yet.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem

[Grant Grundler]

"James P. Kinney III" wrote:
> Also, my processor is listed in firmware and docs as a PA8000. So why
> not 64-bit cpu. If I boot the 2.4.16-64 kernel, it hangs after the
> "branching" messege screen.=20

You need to build your own 64-bit kernel with "NARROW_PDC" support enabled.
But I totally agree with Matthew on this...don't bother.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem

[Tom]

> "James P. Kinney III" wrote:
> > Also, my processor is listed in firmware and docs as a PA8000. So why
> > not 64-bit cpu. If I boot the 2.4.16-64 kernel, it hangs after the
> > "branching" messege screen.=20
>
> You need to build your own 64-bit kernel with "NARROW_PDC" support enabled.
> But I totally agree with Matthew on this...don't bother.
> -
> grant

Okay - is there some short of note on which systems are 32-bit and which
are 64-bit? Something like, "PA7000-series are 32-bit, PA-8000 (up to the
8x00) is 64-bit with 32-bit PDC and PA-8000 (after 8x00) is fully 64-bit".
I just picked up a C180 and have a line on a C240 and was beginning to
wonder the same things...

Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 11:50:02AM -0900, Tom wrote:
> Okay - is there some short of note on which systems are 32-bit and which
> are 64-bit? Something like, "PA7000-series are 32-bit, PA-8000 (up to the
> 8x00) is 64-bit with 32-bit PDC and PA-8000 (after 8x00) is fully 64-bit".
> I just picked up a C180 and have a line on a C240 and was beginning to
> wonder the same things...

workstations: everything up to C360/J2240 has 32-bit firmware; B1000
and up have dual-32/64 bit firmware.
servers: N, L & A500 have 64-bit only firmware; A180 is 32-bit only.
don't know about other models.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:41:57PM -0900, Tom wrote:
> By all means, feel free to post corrections, either here or direct to
> me, and I'll update it. Also, if someone can think of something else
> useful for it, just ask... (Perhaps the minimum kernel revision needed?)

E, F, G, H, I class aren't supported straight off the CD; they require
additional changes, AIUI.  Not to mention no support for their SCSI
adapters.  K mostly works... similar problems to E.  D & R should work
fine (problem with D class with remote management console).  735's FWDiff
scsi doesn't work.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem

[Ryan Bradetich]

On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 22:20, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:41:57PM -0900, Tom wrote:
> > By all means, feel free to post corrections, either here or direct to
> > me, and I'll update it. Also, if someone can think of something else
> > useful for it, just ask... (Perhaps the minimum kernel revision needed?)
> 
> E, F, G, H, I class aren't supported straight off the CD; they require
> additional changes, AIUI.  Not to mention no support for their SCSI
> adapters.  K mostly works... similar problems to E.  D & R should work
> fine (problem with D class with remote management console).  735's FWDiff
> scsi doesn't work.

755 has the same FWDiff as the 735 (outfield) so it doesn't work either.

- Ryan

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735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem)

[Phil Anderson]

On 13 Dec 2001, Ryan Bradetich wrote:

> On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 22:20, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:41:57PM -0900, Tom wrote:
> > > By all means, feel free to post corrections, either here or direct to
> > > me, and I'll update it. Also, if someone can think of something else
> > > useful for it, just ask... (Perhaps the minimum kernel revision needed?)
> >
> > E, F, G, H, I class aren't supported straight off the CD; they require
> > additional changes, AIUI.  Not to mention no support for their SCSI
> > adapters.  K mostly works... similar problems to E.  D & R should work
> > fine (problem with D class with remote management console).  735's FWDiff
> > scsi doesn't work.
>
> 755 has the same FWDiff as the 735 (outfield) so it doesn't work either.


So that would explain why none my 735's can detect hard drives.

I can boot off a CD on the regular scsi, and even though the boot_admin
will detect my disks debian won't.

so has _anyone_ gotten a 735 working or anything? I have 7 of them that
are taking up space in my dorm room, and two 755's under the desk that
server the same purpose...

-phil






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Re: 735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem)

[Richard Hirst]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:58:03PM -0500, Phil Anderson wrote:
> so has _anyone_ gotten a 735 working or anything? I have 7 of them that
> are taking up space in my dorm room, and two 755's under the desk that
> server the same purpose...

I believe some people have had 735 working using narrow SE disks on
the same i/f as the CD.

Richard

Re: 735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem)

[Ryan Bradetich]

On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 11:58, Phil Anderson wrote:
> On 13 Dec 2001, Ryan Bradetich wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 22:20, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:41:57PM -0900, Tom wrote:
> > > > By all means, feel free to post corrections, either here or direct to
> > > > me, and I'll update it. Also, if someone can think of something else
> > > > useful for it, just ask... (Perhaps the minimum kernel revision needed?)
> > >
> > > E, F, G, H, I class aren't supported straight off the CD; they require
> > > additional changes, AIUI.  Not to mention no support for their SCSI
> > > adapters.  K mostly works... similar problems to E.  D & R should work
> > > fine (problem with D class with remote management console).  735's FWDiff
> > > scsi doesn't work.
> >
> > 755 has the same FWDiff as the 735 (outfield) so it doesn't work either.
> 
> 
> So that would explain why none my 735's can detect hard drives.
> 
> I can boot off a CD on the regular scsi, and even though the boot_admin
> will detect my disks debian won't.
> 
> so has _anyone_ gotten a 735 working or anything? I have 7 of them that
> are taking up space in my dorm room, and two 755's under the desk that
> server the same purpose...

Yes,  I tested an early 0.9.3-rc image on the 755 using a single ended
disk on the 755.  The Hardball ERS is published at:
	http://parisc-linux.org/documentation/index.html

if you are interested in taking a stab at getting the FW scsi working :)

- Ryan


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