* [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem @ 2001-12-12 19:34 James P. Kinney III 2001-12-12 19:57 ` Matthew Wilcox 2001-12-12 20:39 ` Grant Grundler 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: James P. Kinney III @ 2001-12-12 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: palinux [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1003 bytes --] My C160 is running the old, broken, no-working-pci, firmware version 2.1. The ftp://us-ffs.external.hp.com/firmware_patches/hp/cpu/ lists the latest version (PF_CC2X0061) as 6.1. So I upgraded my firmware. Still no sti console nor X on frame buffer. I can see in /proc that the frame buffers are running (stifb). When X starts, it fails on a framebuffer call. When IPL dmesg mentions: Dino: No PCI devices enabled. Also, my processor is listed in firmware and docs as a PA8000. So why not 64-bit cpu. If I boot the 2.4.16-64 kernel, it hangs after the "branching" messege screen. -- James P. Kinney III \Changing the mobile computing world/ President and COO \ one Linux user / Local Net Solutions,LLC \ at a time. / 770-493-8244 \.___________________________./ GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) <jkinney@localnetsolutions.com> Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem 2001-12-12 19:34 [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem James P. Kinney III @ 2001-12-12 19:57 ` Matthew Wilcox 2001-12-12 20:39 ` Grant Grundler 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Matthew Wilcox @ 2001-12-12 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: James P. Kinney III; +Cc: palinux On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:34:35PM -0500, James P. Kinney III wrote: > Also, my processor is listed in firmware and docs as a PA8000. So why > not 64-bit cpu. If I boot the 2.4.16-64 kernel, it hangs after the > "branching" messege screen. this must surely be a faq by now. the c160-era workstations shipped with 32-bit firmware, so it's much more sensible to run a 32-bit kernel on them. why do people think a 64-bit kernel is better? it's slower and takes more ram than a 32-bit kernel. the only benefit it might offer (being able to deal with >4gb of ram, or >4gb virtual address space) aren't applicable -- you can't put that much ram in a c160, and we don't support 64-bit user processes yet. -- Revolutions do not require corporate support. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem 2001-12-12 19:34 [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem James P. Kinney III 2001-12-12 19:57 ` Matthew Wilcox @ 2001-12-12 20:39 ` Grant Grundler 2001-12-12 20:50 ` Tom 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Grant Grundler @ 2001-12-12 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: James P. Kinney III; +Cc: palinux "James P. Kinney III" wrote: > Also, my processor is listed in firmware and docs as a PA8000. So why > not 64-bit cpu. If I boot the 2.4.16-64 kernel, it hangs after the > "branching" messege screen.=20 You need to build your own 64-bit kernel with "NARROW_PDC" support enabled. But I totally agree with Matthew on this...don't bother. grant ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem 2001-12-12 20:39 ` Grant Grundler @ 2001-12-12 20:50 ` Tom 2001-12-12 21:02 ` Matthew Wilcox 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Tom @ 2001-12-12 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Grant Grundler; +Cc: James P. Kinney III, palinux > "James P. Kinney III" wrote: > > Also, my processor is listed in firmware and docs as a PA8000. So why > > not 64-bit cpu. If I boot the 2.4.16-64 kernel, it hangs after the > > "branching" messege screen.=20 > > You need to build your own 64-bit kernel with "NARROW_PDC" support enabled. > But I totally agree with Matthew on this...don't bother. > - > grant Okay - is there some short of note on which systems are 32-bit and which are 64-bit? Something like, "PA7000-series are 32-bit, PA-8000 (up to the 8x00) is 64-bit with 32-bit PDC and PA-8000 (after 8x00) is fully 64-bit". I just picked up a C180 and have a line on a C240 and was beginning to wonder the same things... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem 2001-12-12 20:50 ` Tom @ 2001-12-12 21:02 ` Matthew Wilcox [not found] ` <1008218517.2031.1.camel@crudball> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Matthew Wilcox @ 2001-12-12 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tom; +Cc: Grant Grundler, James P. Kinney III, palinux On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 11:50:02AM -0900, Tom wrote: > Okay - is there some short of note on which systems are 32-bit and which > are 64-bit? Something like, "PA7000-series are 32-bit, PA-8000 (up to the > 8x00) is 64-bit with 32-bit PDC and PA-8000 (after 8x00) is fully 64-bit". > I just picked up a C180 and have a line on a C240 and was beginning to > wonder the same things... workstations: everything up to C360/J2240 has 32-bit firmware; B1000 and up have dual-32/64 bit firmware. servers: N, L & A500 have 64-bit only firmware; A180 is 32-bit only. don't know about other models. -- Revolutions do not require corporate support. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem [not found] ` <1008218517.2031.1.camel@crudball> @ 2001-12-13 5:20 ` Matthew Wilcox 2001-12-13 14:21 ` Ryan Bradetich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Matthew Wilcox @ 2001-12-13 5:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tom; +Cc: Matthew Wilcox, palinux On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:41:57PM -0900, Tom wrote: > By all means, feel free to post corrections, either here or direct to > me, and I'll update it. Also, if someone can think of something else > useful for it, just ask... (Perhaps the minimum kernel revision needed?) E, F, G, H, I class aren't supported straight off the CD; they require additional changes, AIUI. Not to mention no support for their SCSI adapters. K mostly works... similar problems to E. D & R should work fine (problem with D class with remote management console). 735's FWDiff scsi doesn't work. -- Revolutions do not require corporate support. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem 2001-12-13 5:20 ` Matthew Wilcox @ 2001-12-13 14:21 ` Ryan Bradetich 2001-12-14 18:58 ` 735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem) Phil Anderson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ryan Bradetich @ 2001-12-13 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Wilcox; +Cc: Tom, palinux On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 22:20, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:41:57PM -0900, Tom wrote: > > By all means, feel free to post corrections, either here or direct to > > me, and I'll update it. Also, if someone can think of something else > > useful for it, just ask... (Perhaps the minimum kernel revision needed?) > > E, F, G, H, I class aren't supported straight off the CD; they require > additional changes, AIUI. Not to mention no support for their SCSI > adapters. K mostly works... similar problems to E. D & R should work > fine (problem with D class with remote management console). 735's FWDiff > scsi doesn't work. 755 has the same FWDiff as the 735 (outfield) so it doesn't work either. - Ryan > -- > Revolutions do not require corporate support. > > _______________________________________________ > parisc-linux mailing list > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* 735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem) 2001-12-13 14:21 ` Ryan Bradetich @ 2001-12-14 18:58 ` Phil Anderson 2001-12-14 22:55 ` Richard Hirst 2001-12-17 5:43 ` Ryan Bradetich 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Phil Anderson @ 2001-12-14 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ryan Bradetich; +Cc: Matthew Wilcox, Tom, palinux On 13 Dec 2001, Ryan Bradetich wrote: > On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 22:20, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:41:57PM -0900, Tom wrote: > > > By all means, feel free to post corrections, either here or direct to > > > me, and I'll update it. Also, if someone can think of something else > > > useful for it, just ask... (Perhaps the minimum kernel revision needed?) > > > > E, F, G, H, I class aren't supported straight off the CD; they require > > additional changes, AIUI. Not to mention no support for their SCSI > > adapters. K mostly works... similar problems to E. D & R should work > > fine (problem with D class with remote management console). 735's FWDiff > > scsi doesn't work. > > 755 has the same FWDiff as the 735 (outfield) so it doesn't work either. So that would explain why none my 735's can detect hard drives. I can boot off a CD on the regular scsi, and even though the boot_admin will detect my disks debian won't. so has _anyone_ gotten a 735 working or anything? I have 7 of them that are taking up space in my dorm room, and two 755's under the desk that server the same purpose... -phil > > - Ryan > > > -- > > Revolutions do not require corporate support. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > parisc-linux mailing list > > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org > > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > parisc-linux mailing list > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux > -- =============================================================================== Phil Anderson UNIX Systems Administrator andersop@neverland.ncssm.edu The_13th_Ewok@hotmail.com "Go CRAZY? Don't mind if I do! Woowoowoowoo!" -Homer Simpson ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: 735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem) 2001-12-14 18:58 ` 735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem) Phil Anderson @ 2001-12-14 22:55 ` Richard Hirst 2001-12-17 5:43 ` Ryan Bradetich 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Richard Hirst @ 2001-12-14 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Phil Anderson; +Cc: Ryan Bradetich, Matthew Wilcox, Tom, palinux On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:58:03PM -0500, Phil Anderson wrote: > so has _anyone_ gotten a 735 working or anything? I have 7 of them that > are taking up space in my dorm room, and two 755's under the desk that > server the same purpose... I believe some people have had 735 working using narrow SE disks on the same i/f as the CD. Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: 735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem) 2001-12-14 18:58 ` 735 and SCSI (was: Re: [parisc-linux] Firmware upgraded, STI console problem) Phil Anderson 2001-12-14 22:55 ` Richard Hirst @ 2001-12-17 5:43 ` Ryan Bradetich 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Ryan Bradetich @ 2001-12-17 5:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Phil Anderson; +Cc: palinux On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 11:58, Phil Anderson wrote: > On 13 Dec 2001, Ryan Bradetich wrote: > > > On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 22:20, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:41:57PM -0900, Tom wrote: > > > > By all means, feel free to post corrections, either here or direct to > > > > me, and I'll update it. Also, if someone can think of something else > > > > useful for it, just ask... (Perhaps the minimum kernel revision needed?) > > > > > > E, F, G, H, I class aren't supported straight off the CD; they require > > > additional changes, AIUI. Not to mention no support for their SCSI > > > adapters. K mostly works... similar problems to E. D & R should work > > > fine (problem with D class with remote management console). 735's FWDiff > > > scsi doesn't work. > > > > 755 has the same FWDiff as the 735 (outfield) so it doesn't work either. > > > So that would explain why none my 735's can detect hard drives. > > I can boot off a CD on the regular scsi, and even though the boot_admin > will detect my disks debian won't. > > so has _anyone_ gotten a 735 working or anything? I have 7 of them that > are taking up space in my dorm room, and two 755's under the desk that > server the same purpose... Yes, I tested an early 0.9.3-rc image on the 755 using a single ended disk on the 755. The Hardball ERS is published at: http://parisc-linux.org/documentation/index.html if you are interested in taking a stab at getting the FW scsi working :) - Ryan > -phil > > > > > > > > > > - Ryan > > > > > -- > > > Revolutions do not require corporate support. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > parisc-linux mailing list > > > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org > > > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > parisc-linux mailing list > > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org > > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux > > > > -- > =============================================================================== > > Phil Anderson > UNIX Systems Administrator > andersop@neverland.ncssm.edu > The_13th_Ewok@hotmail.com > > "Go CRAZY? Don't mind if I do! Woowoowoowoo!" -Homer Simpson > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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