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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: John Zielinski <grim@undead.cc>
Cc: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Alex Stewart <alex@foogod.com>,
	Linux Frame Buffer Device Development
	<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] neofb patches
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:10:55 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1083107454.16544.42.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <408EE34F.8080106@undead.cc>

On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 08:48, John Zielinski wrote:
> James Simmons wrote:
> 
> >I wouldn't bank on that. I seen this solution fall short. Consider a system 
> >where we have a serial console, vgacon, and fbcon (say hgafb). Well I 
> >leave it to the imagination what can go wrong. 
> >  
> >
> I can see how vgacon and fbcon would walk all over each other but how 
> would a serial console
> mess things up?

Same question... Where is the problem ?

> >I agree we need arbitration. Eventually fbdev and dri have to merge. Mode 
> >setting is still best handled kernel side. That is just a reality.
> >
> >  
> >
> Arbitration would be best.  How would it be done generally?  Some 
> mechanism that arbitrates based on mem/io ranges or something else?

We need several level of arbitration, I'm not sure hwo to do that at
this point and I don't have time to dive into the DRI side of things.

Jon Smirl has been working on embedded mesa & moving DRI outside of
X. Unfortunately, last I heard, he was still on his trip of re-inventing
everything including replacing the fbdev's with his own stuff instead
of moving from what we have ...

Ben,



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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-27 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-21  1:14 [PATCH] neofb patches Alex Stewart
2004-04-21 17:47 ` James Simmons
2004-04-21 19:10   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-04-22  8:09     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-23 23:27       ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 16:53     ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23 20:03       ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 18:35     ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 19:54       ` James Simmons
2004-04-22  3:18   ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-22 20:57     ` James Simmons
2004-04-23  4:03       ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23  6:43         ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23 23:00           ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 23:00             ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2004-04-24  3:15             ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-04-24  7:08               ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-24  7:08                 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Alex Stewart
2004-04-25  3:10                 ` James Simmons
2004-04-25  3:10                   ` James Simmons
2004-04-25  3:09               ` James Simmons
2004-04-25  3:09                 ` James Simmons
2004-04-24 17:29             ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-24 17:29               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Alex Stewart
2004-04-25  0:55               ` James Simmons
2004-04-25  0:55                 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2004-04-26 18:12                 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-27  0:11                   ` James Simmons
2004-04-27  1:15                     ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-27  8:49                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-27 10:12                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-27 20:25                           ` James Simmons
2004-04-27 22:48                             ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27 23:10                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2004-04-27 23:21                                 ` James Simmons
2004-04-27 23:25                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-27 23:46                                   ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27 23:50                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28  0:38                                       ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28  0:41                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28  1:39                                           ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28  3:17                                             ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-28  3:18                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 17:02                                                 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28  4:36                                               ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28  4:56                                                 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-28  6:59                                                   ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28  8:26                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 22:00                                           ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28  0:29                                     ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28  0:54                                       ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-04-28  1:15                                         ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28  1:21                                       ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 16:53                                         ` James Simmons
2004-04-28  0:23                                   ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28  0:20                                 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28  0:36                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28  7:08                                     ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28  8:27                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 10:16                                       ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-28 16:37                                         ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 16:50                                           ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 22:26                                           ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-28 23:42                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 23:59                                               ` James Simmons
2004-04-29  1:06                                               ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29  1:20                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 16:56                                                   ` James Simmons
2004-04-29 21:57                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-30 15:06                                                       ` Ville Syrjälä
2004-04-30 16:50                                                         ` James Simmons
2004-05-01  0:40                                                           ` Otto Solares
2004-05-06 19:28                                                             ` Mobility M1 refresh code problem 2.4.26? Richard Smith
2004-05-06 19:57                                                               ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-06 20:35                                                                 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-06 20:42                                                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-05-06 21:12                                                                     ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07  7:57                                                                       ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-07 14:11                                                                         ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07 15:34                                                                           ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-07 19:42                                                                             ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07 23:11                                                                               ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-04-29  8:32                                               ` [PATCH] neofb patches Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-29  1:07                                             ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29  1:23                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 13:01                                               ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-29 17:52                                                 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29 23:12                                                   ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-30  1:18                                                     ` Otto Solares
2004-04-30  1:28                                                       ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-30 21:26                                                         ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 23:30                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 17:39                                       ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 18:03                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 22:46                                         ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27  8:56                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-23 16:07         ` James Simmons

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