From: "Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala@sci.fi>
To: Linux Frame Buffer Device Development
<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] neofb patches
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:06:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040430150627.GB1543@sci.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1083275840.21436.148.camel@gaston>
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On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 07:57:20AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>
> > > Finally, the geometry of screens is something that has nothing to
> > > do in the kernel imho.
> >
> > I don't like micro kernel designs. This is way micro kernels handle this
> > problem.
>
> This has nothing to do with microkernel design and everything to do with
> not bloating the kernel with things that don't to be there.
I would like the kernel to handle CRTCs and overlays in the same way, and
that way IMHO should be to calculate register values in userspace and just
have a few ioctls to have the kernel write them.
Set all registers ioctl:
Nothing special needed here I think.
Set buffer offset (pan/flip) ioctl:
This one should return the current vertical blank counter. It's needed for
proper triple buffering. It should also be able to choose when to flip
(immediately or vblank, on top/bottom/any field).
Wait for vertical blank ioctl:
This one should also return the current vblank counter. It should also be
able to wait for absolute and relative vblank counter values. Waiting for
relative=1 would insure you're at the vblank when it returns and waiting
for absolute=last_flip_counter_value+1 would help with double buffering.
The main reason for userspace register calculation is that there are a lot
of knobs in some hardware (especially with overlays). Trying to abstract
those without loosing any features would be a problem. And even the API
would cover all of todays graphics chip something new might come along in
the future and the API might become too limited.
--
Ville Syrjälä
syrjala@sci.fi
http://www.sci.fi/~syrjala/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-30 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-21 1:14 [PATCH] neofb patches Alex Stewart
2004-04-21 17:47 ` James Simmons
2004-04-21 19:10 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-04-22 8:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-23 23:27 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 16:53 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23 20:03 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 18:35 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 19:54 ` James Simmons
2004-04-22 3:18 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-22 20:57 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 4:03 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23 6:43 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-23 23:00 ` James Simmons
2004-04-23 23:00 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2004-04-24 3:15 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-04-24 7:08 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-24 7:08 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Alex Stewart
2004-04-25 3:10 ` James Simmons
2004-04-25 3:10 ` James Simmons
2004-04-25 3:09 ` James Simmons
2004-04-25 3:09 ` James Simmons
2004-04-24 17:29 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-24 17:29 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Alex Stewart
2004-04-25 0:55 ` James Simmons
2004-04-25 0:55 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2004-04-26 18:12 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-27 0:11 ` James Simmons
2004-04-27 1:15 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-27 8:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-27 10:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-27 20:25 ` James Simmons
2004-04-27 22:48 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27 23:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-27 23:21 ` James Simmons
2004-04-27 23:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-27 23:46 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27 23:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 0:38 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 0:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 1:39 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 3:17 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-28 3:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 17:02 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 4:36 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 4:56 ` Alex Stewart
2004-04-28 6:59 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 8:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 22:00 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 0:29 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 0:54 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-04-28 1:15 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 1:21 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-28 16:53 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 0:23 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 0:20 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 0:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 7:08 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 8:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 10:16 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-28 16:37 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 16:50 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 22:26 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-28 23:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 23:59 ` James Simmons
2004-04-29 1:06 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 16:56 ` James Simmons
2004-04-29 21:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-30 15:06 ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2004-04-30 16:50 ` James Simmons
2004-05-01 0:40 ` Otto Solares
2004-05-06 19:28 ` Mobility M1 refresh code problem 2.4.26? Richard Smith
2004-05-06 19:57 ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-06 20:35 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-06 20:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-05-06 21:12 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07 7:57 ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-07 14:11 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07 15:34 ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-05-07 19:42 ` Richard Smith
2004-05-07 23:11 ` Mikael Eriksson
2004-04-29 8:32 ` [PATCH] neofb patches Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-29 1:07 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29 1:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 13:01 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-29 17:52 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-29 23:12 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-30 1:18 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-30 1:28 ` Michel Dänzer
2004-04-30 21:26 ` Otto Solares
2004-04-28 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-28 17:39 ` James Simmons
2004-04-28 18:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-28 22:46 ` John Zielinski
2004-04-27 8:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-04-23 16:07 ` James Simmons
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