From: Thomas Charbonnel <thomas@undata.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
Free Ekanayaka <free@agnula.org>,
Eric St-Laurent <ericstl34@sympatico.ca>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>,
Felipe Alfaro Solana <lkml@felipe-alfaro.com>,
Daniel Schmitt <pnambic@unu.nu>,
Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com,
"P.O. Gaillard" <pierre-olivier.gaillard@fr.thalesgroup.com>,
nando@ccrma.stanford.edu, luke@audioslack.com, free78@tin.it
Subject: Re: [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R1
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:05:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1094213108.5453.10.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040903114949.GA29493@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote :
> * Thomas Charbonnel <thomas@undata.org> wrote:
>
> > I still get > 170 us latency from rtl8139 :
> > http://www.undata.org/~thomas/R1_rtl8139.trace
>
> this is a single-packet latency, we wont get much lower than this with
> the current techniques. Disabling ip_conntrack and tracing ought to
> lower the real latency somewhat.
>
Ok, I'll do that.
> > And again this one :
> > preemption latency trace v1.0.5 on 2.6.9-rc1-VP-R1
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > latency: 597 us, entries: 12 (12)
> > -----------------
> > | task: swapper/0, uid:0 nice:0 policy:0 rt_prio:0
> > -----------------
> > => started at: smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x32/0xd0
> > => ended at: smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x86/0xd0
> > =======>
> > 00010000 0.000ms (+0.000ms): smp_apic_timer_interrupt (apic_timer_interrupt)
> > 00010000 0.000ms (+0.000ms): profile_tick (smp_apic_timer_interrupt)
> > 00010000 0.000ms (+0.000ms): profile_hook (profile_tick)
> > 00010001 0.000ms (+0.595ms): notifier_call_chain (profile_hook)
> > 00010000 0.595ms (+0.000ms): do_nmi (mcount)
> > 00020000 0.596ms (+0.000ms): profile_tick (nmi_watchdog_tick)
> > 00020000 0.596ms (+0.000ms): profile_hook (profile_tick)
> > 00020001 0.597ms (+0.000ms): notifier_call_chain (profile_hook)
> > 00020000 0.597ms (+689953.444ms): profile_hit (nmi_watchdog_tick)
> > 00010001 689954.042ms (+1.141ms): update_process_times (do_timer)
> > 00000001 0.597ms (+0.000ms): sub_preempt_count (smp_apic_timer_interrupt)
> > 00000001 0.598ms (+0.000ms): update_max_trace (check_preempt_timing)
>
> this is a pretty weird one. First it shows an apparently non-monotonic
> RDTSC: the jump forward and backward in time around profile_hit. I
> suspect the real RDTSC value was lower than the previous one and caused
> an underflow. What is your cpu_khz in /proc/cpuinfo?
>
root@satellite thomas # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 11
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1000MHz
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 996.879
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse
bogomips : 1966.08
> the other weird one is the +0.595 usec entry at notifier_call_chain().
> That code is just a couple of instructions, so no real for any overhead
> there.
>
> could you try the attached robust-get-cycles.patch ontop of your current
> tree and see whether it impacts these weirdnesses? The patch makes sure
> that the cycle counter is sane: two subsequent readings of it were
> monotonic and less than 1000 cycles apart.
>
> this patch probably wont remove the +0.595 msec latency though - the
> RDTSC value jumped forward there permanently. Maybe the RDTSC value is
> somehow corrupted by NMIs - could you turn off the NMI watchdog to
> check?
>
> Ingo
I precisely enabled the NMI watchdog to track those weird latencies
down. My guess is still that when ACPI is enabled my bios does something
funky with SMM/SMI that increments the TSC. I'll try the patch and let
you know.
Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-03 12:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-30 19:13 [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-08-30 19:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-01 12:31 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5 - netdev_max_back_log is too small P.O. Gaillard
2004-09-01 13:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 11:24 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q6 - network is no longer smooth P.O. Gaillard
2004-09-02 11:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 15:26 ` P.O. Gaillard
2004-08-31 8:49 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 6:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 6:55 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q8 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 7:04 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02 7:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 7:31 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02 7:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 1:10 ` Rusty Russell
2004-09-03 1:10 ` Rusty Russell
2004-09-02 23:25 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02 23:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 23:32 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02 7:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 8:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 11:10 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q9 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 12:14 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-02 13:16 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-02 13:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 14:38 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-02 21:57 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R0 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 22:06 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02 22:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 22:15 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 0:24 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 3:17 ` Eric St-Laurent
2004-09-03 6:26 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 6:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 6:49 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 7:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 7:40 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 7:50 ` Free Ekanayaka
2004-09-03 8:05 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 9:05 ` Free Ekanayaka
2004-09-03 9:25 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R1 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 9:50 ` Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 10:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 10:43 ` Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 11:33 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-03 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 12:05 ` Thomas Charbonnel [this message]
2004-09-03 16:14 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-03 17:36 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-03 11:36 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R2 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 8:09 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R0 Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 8:13 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 8:21 ` Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 12:52 ` Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 18:09 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 11:04 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 17:02 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 20:40 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 17:10 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 18:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 18:36 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 19:30 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R3 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 19:49 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04 3:39 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04 3:43 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04 6:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-04 12:28 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04 8:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-04 10:16 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 14:35 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04 20:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 18:39 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R0 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 18:41 ` K.R. Foley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-07 16:54 [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R1 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-08 18:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-10 2:31 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-10 17:56 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-10 19:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-10 19:28 ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-09 16:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-08 20:33 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-08 22:31 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-09 16:44 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-09 6:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-09 15:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-09 15:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-09 18:31 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-09 19:23 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-09 19:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-09 19:02 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-09 22:41 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-09 22:56 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-10 12:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-10 12:57 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-10 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-10 14:28 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-10 19:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-13 14:44 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-14 18:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 15:26 ` Stephen Smalley
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