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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com
Cc: "K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Felipe Alfaro Solana <lkml@felipe-alfaro.com>,
	Daniel Schmitt <pnambic@unu.nu>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:33:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040902063335.GA17657@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF04883085.9C3535D2-ON86256F00.0065652B@raytheon.com>


* Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com <Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com> wrote:

> In 2.4, it appears that the duration of the write system call is
> basically fixed and dependent on the duration of the audio fragment.
> In 2.6, this behavior is now different. If I look at the chart in
> detail, it appears the system is queueing up several write operations
> during the first few seconds of testing. You can see this by
> consistently low elapsed times for the write system call. Then the
> elapsed time for the write bounces up / down in a sawtooth pattern
> over a 1 msec range. Could someone explain the cause of this new
> behavior and if there is a setting to restore the old behavior? I am
> concerned that this queueing adds latency to audio operations (when
> trying to synchronize audio with other real time behavior).

i think i found the reason for the sawtooth: it's a bug in hardirq
redirection. In certain situations we can end up not waking up softirqd,
resulting in a random 0-1msec latency between hardirq arrival and
softirq execution. We dont see higher latencies because timer IRQs
always wake up softirqd which hides the bug to a certain degree.

I'll fix this in -Q8.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-02  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-30 19:13 [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-08-30 19:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-01 12:31   ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5 - netdev_max_back_log is too small P.O. Gaillard
2004-09-01 13:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 11:24       ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q6 - network is no longer smooth P.O. Gaillard
2004-09-02 11:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 15:26           ` P.O. Gaillard
2004-08-31  8:49 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02  6:33 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-09-02  6:55   ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q8 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02  7:04     ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02  7:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02  7:31         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02  7:46           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03  1:10             ` Rusty Russell
2004-09-03  1:10               ` Rusty Russell
2004-09-02 23:25         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02 23:28           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 23:32             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02  7:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02  8:23     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 11:10     ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q9 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 12:14       ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-02 13:16       ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-02 13:23         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 14:38           ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-02 21:57       ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R0 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 22:06         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-02 22:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 22:15             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03  0:24             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03  3:17               ` Eric St-Laurent
2004-09-03  6:26                 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03  6:36                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03  6:49                     ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03  7:01                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03  7:05                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03  7:40                         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03  7:50                           ` Free Ekanayaka
2004-09-03  8:05                             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03  9:05                               ` Free Ekanayaka
2004-09-03  9:25                               ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R1 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03  9:50                                 ` Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 10:29                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 10:43                                     ` Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 11:33                                 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-03 11:49                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 12:05                                     ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-03 16:14                                     ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-03 17:36                                       ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-09-03 11:36                                 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R2 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03  8:09                           ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R0 Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03  8:13                             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03  8:21                               ` Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 12:52                               ` Luke Yelavich
2004-09-03 18:09                         ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 11:04         ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 17:02         ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 20:40           ` Lee Revell
2004-09-03 17:10         ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 18:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 18:36             ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-03 19:30             ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R3 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 19:49               ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04  3:39               ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04  3:43               ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04  6:41                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-04 12:28                   ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04  8:57                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-04 10:16                   ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 14:35                   ` K.R. Foley
2004-09-04 20:05                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 18:39           ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-R0 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-03 18:41             ` K.R. Foley
     [not found] <OFD220F58F.002C5901-ON86256F02.005C2FB1-86256F02.005C2FD5@raytheon.com>
2004-09-01 17:09 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5 Ingo Molnar
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2004-09-01 15:21 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-02 22:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-01 14:37 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-09-01 19:31 ` Takashi Iwai
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2004-08-31 23:06                     ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                     ` <2znJS-5Pm-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
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2004-08-31 23:10                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-01  7:05                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 20:10 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-08-31 20:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 15:17 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-08-31 17:20 ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31 18:09   ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31 18:53     ` Takashi Iwai
2004-08-31 18:56       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 16:59         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-09-02 17:50           ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31 18:19   ` Takashi Iwai
2004-08-31 18:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 19:02       ` Takashi Iwai
2004-08-31 18:50   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 12:46 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-08-30 22:04 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-08-31  6:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-01  7:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-28 17:52 [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q0 Lee Revell
2004-08-28 19:44 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-28 20:10   ` Daniel Schmitt
2004-08-28 20:31     ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q3 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-28 21:10       ` Lee Revell
2004-08-28 21:13         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-28 21:16           ` Lee Revell
2004-08-28 23:51             ` Lee Revell
2004-08-29  2:35               ` Lee Revell
2004-08-29  5:43                 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q4 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-30  9:06                   ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.9-rc1-bk4-Q5 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-30 14:25                     ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-08-30 18:00                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 19:23                         ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-08-31 19:30                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 19:45                             ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-08-31  6:40                     ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31  6:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 23:03                         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-01 15:52                           ` Martin Josefsson
2004-09-01 21:15                             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-01 21:30                             ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31  7:06                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 19:21                         ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31 19:37                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 19:47                             ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31 19:51                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 20:09                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 20:10                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31 20:14                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 20:20                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 20:34                                         ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31 20:39                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-31 20:41                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-08-31 17:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2004-09-01  1:43                     ` Lee Revell
2004-09-01  2:30                     ` Lee Revell
2004-09-01  7:27                     ` Lee Revell

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