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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] I/O space write barrier
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 08:41:40 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1097016099.27222.14.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200410050833.49654.jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>

On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 01:33, Jesse Barnes wrote:

> This macro is only supposed to deal with writes from different CPUs that may 
> arrive out of order, nothing else.  It sounds like PPC won't allow that 
> normally, so I can be an empty definition.

I don't understand that neither. You can never guarantee any ordering
between writes from different CPUs unless you have a sinlock. If you
have an ordering problem with spinlocks, then it's a totally different
issue, a bit more like MMIO vs. cacheable mem that we have on PPC. If
this is the problem you are trying to chase, then we could use such a
barrier on ppc too and make it a hard sync, but it has nothing to do
with the write barrier we already have in our IO accessors...

> > That  doesn't solve my need of MMIO vs. memory unless you are trying to
> > cover that as well, in which case it should be a sync.
> 
> No, I think that has to be covered separately.

How so ? Again, this whole "ordering of writes between different CPU" makes
absolutely no sense to me.

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-05 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-04 20:39 [PATCH] I/O space write barrier Albert Cahalan
2004-10-04 21:20 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-05  0:32   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-10-05  1:22     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-05  2:26       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-05  3:04         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-05 15:33           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-05 22:41             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2004-10-05 23:09               ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-05 23:57               ` Roland Dreier
2004-10-06  1:45                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-05  2:33     ` Jesse Barnes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-21 23:13 Jesse Barnes
2004-10-21 23:13 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-22  1:01 ` Grant Grundler
2004-10-22  1:01   ` Grant Grundler
2004-10-22  3:05   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-22  3:05     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-22  4:26     ` Greg Banks
2004-10-22  4:26       ` Greg Banks
2004-10-22 15:26     ` Grant Grundler
2004-10-22 15:26       ` Grant Grundler
2004-10-05 22:38 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-27 18:03 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-29 10:36 ` Greg Banks
2004-09-29 20:35   ` David S. Miller
2004-09-29 20:43     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-29 20:50       ` David S. Miller
2004-09-30  2:23         ` Greg Banks
2004-09-29 22:55 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-30  7:15   ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-30 21:21     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-10-16  0:38       ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-10-16  3:20         ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-10-16  3:31           ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-23 18:48 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-23 19:03 ` James Bottomley
2004-09-23 19:07   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-23 19:27     ` James Bottomley
2004-09-23 19:41       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-23 19:57       ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-23 22:22       ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-23 23:36         ` James Bottomley
2004-09-24  5:03           ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-23 19:55     ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-23 20:09       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-27  0:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-27 15:41   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-22 15:45 Jesse Barnes

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