From: Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>
To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
Cc: Manoj Srivastava <manoj.srivastava@stdc.com>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Updated SELinux Release
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:06:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1099627566.25416.6.camel@nexus.verbum.private> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041104131544.GC5461@lkcl.net>
On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 13:15 +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> default: no.
Why not on by default, with a targeted policy, for everyone? SELinux's
flexibility allows one to easily turn it off for specific services.
There's a lot of value in preventing a compromised or misconfigured
syslogd or portmap daemon from destroying your system. Not to mention
Apache; with the stronger version of can_network, the Slapper worm would
have been stopped in its tracks (no outbound port 80 access).
Additionally, I'm working on securing some high-risk software using the
targeted policy; something that would be difficult to impossible to do
without SELinux.
The entire point of SELinux is to bring strong, flexible mandatory
access control to a mainstream operating system (Linux). If it's not
enabled by default, and limited to the few of us on this mailing list,
what's the point? Why don't we just run say EROS (http://www.eros-
os.org/) instead? A: Because what makes SELinux interesting is that it
can run all of our legacy software. By not shipping it on everywhere,
we're not tapping that ability.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-05 4:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-03 15:39 Updated SELinux Release Stephen Smalley
2004-11-03 18:19 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-03 19:21 ` Dhruv Gami
2004-11-04 2:15 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-04 7:02 ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04 13:15 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 4:06 ` Colin Walters [this message]
2004-11-05 10:28 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 15:11 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-05 15:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 15:57 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 21:01 ` Colin Walters
2005-01-03 12:53 ` Russell Coker
2005-01-03 14:47 ` Lorenzo Hernández García-Hierro
2004-11-05 12:29 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 14:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 15:38 ` James Morris
2004-11-04 15:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 14:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 0:59 ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04 3:37 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-04 6:57 ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04 13:38 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 18:25 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2004-11-04 18:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 13:33 ` Stephen Smalley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-09 21:02 Stephen Smalley
2005-06-22 18:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-07 16:23 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-01-07 20:59 Stephen Smalley
2004-08-19 19:01 Updated SELinux release Stephen Smalley
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