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From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
To: Manoj Srivastava <manoj.srivastava@stdc.com>
Cc: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Updated SELinux Release
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:15:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041104131544.GC5461@lkcl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k6t2qepg.fsf@glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com>

On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 01:02:35AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:15:38 -0500, Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org> said: 
> 
> > On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 19:21 +0000, Dhruv Gami wrote:
> >> Personally, i would prefer to have those two tarballs available. I
> >> know most people using SELinux are familiar with patching the
> >> kernel, and are generally familiar with how Linux works and know
> >> their way around on a Linux system.
> 
> > But moving forward, we don't want people to have to patch their
> > kernel or utilities.
> 
> 	Moving waaay forward. I asked the Debian kernel team to
>  consider  compiling in SELinux (perhaps disabled by default, for
>  starters), and was told that that is not going to fly because of
>  "significant performance hit" one takes by compiling SELinux in.  I
>  did not have any data to refute the claim, so  that is where we sit.
 
  i had a bun-fight with the people who have taken over from herbert:
  at the point where i told them that recompiling applications to be
  optimised like yoper and gentoo distributions gives back performance
  far in excess of that lost by selinux, i stopped hearing back from
  them.

> 	While a laudable long term goal, the reality is that most
>  distributions do not ship these utilities today, and in the case of
>  Debian, progress, while it is happening, is slow enough that
>  pragmatism requires we consider the reality that SELinux shall _not_
>  be the default in the near term.
 
 default: no.

 available as an additional package: why not?

 heck, personally i wouldn't even care if it was i386 or 686 only.

 l.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-04 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-03 15:39 Updated SELinux Release Stephen Smalley
2004-11-03 18:19 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-03 19:21 ` Dhruv Gami
2004-11-04  2:15   ` Colin Walters
2004-11-04  7:02     ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04 13:15       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [this message]
2004-11-05  4:06         ` Colin Walters
2004-11-05 10:28           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 15:11             ` Colin Walters
2004-11-05 15:51               ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 15:57               ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 21:01                 ` Colin Walters
2005-01-03 12:53                 ` Russell Coker
2005-01-03 14:47                   ` Lorenzo Hernández García-Hierro
2004-11-05 12:29           ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 14:35       ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 15:38       ` James Morris
2004-11-04 15:47         ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 14:24   ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04  0:59 ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04  3:37   ` Colin Walters
2004-11-04  6:57     ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04 13:38     ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 18:25       ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2004-11-04 18:25         ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 13:33   ` Stephen Smalley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-09 21:02 Stephen Smalley
2005-06-22 18:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-07 16:23   ` Stephen Smalley
2005-01-07 20:59 Stephen Smalley
2004-08-19 19:01 Updated SELinux release Stephen Smalley

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