From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
To: Manoj Srivastava <manoj.srivastava@stdc.com>
Cc: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Updated SELinux Release
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:15:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041104131544.GC5461@lkcl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k6t2qepg.fsf@glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com>
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 01:02:35AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:15:38 -0500, Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org> said:
>
> > On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 19:21 +0000, Dhruv Gami wrote:
> >> Personally, i would prefer to have those two tarballs available. I
> >> know most people using SELinux are familiar with patching the
> >> kernel, and are generally familiar with how Linux works and know
> >> their way around on a Linux system.
>
> > But moving forward, we don't want people to have to patch their
> > kernel or utilities.
>
> Moving waaay forward. I asked the Debian kernel team to
> consider compiling in SELinux (perhaps disabled by default, for
> starters), and was told that that is not going to fly because of
> "significant performance hit" one takes by compiling SELinux in. I
> did not have any data to refute the claim, so that is where we sit.
i had a bun-fight with the people who have taken over from herbert:
at the point where i told them that recompiling applications to be
optimised like yoper and gentoo distributions gives back performance
far in excess of that lost by selinux, i stopped hearing back from
them.
> While a laudable long term goal, the reality is that most
> distributions do not ship these utilities today, and in the case of
> Debian, progress, while it is happening, is slow enough that
> pragmatism requires we consider the reality that SELinux shall _not_
> be the default in the near term.
default: no.
available as an additional package: why not?
heck, personally i wouldn't even care if it was i386 or 686 only.
l.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-04 13:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-03 15:39 Updated SELinux Release Stephen Smalley
2004-11-03 18:19 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-03 19:21 ` Dhruv Gami
2004-11-04 2:15 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-04 7:02 ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04 13:15 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [this message]
2004-11-05 4:06 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-05 10:28 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 15:11 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-05 15:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 15:57 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 21:01 ` Colin Walters
2005-01-03 12:53 ` Russell Coker
2005-01-03 14:47 ` Lorenzo Hernández García-Hierro
2004-11-05 12:29 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 14:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 15:38 ` James Morris
2004-11-04 15:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 14:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 0:59 ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04 3:37 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-04 6:57 ` Manoj Srivastava
2004-11-04 13:38 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 18:25 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2004-11-04 18:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 13:33 ` Stephen Smalley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-09 21:02 Stephen Smalley
2005-06-22 18:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-07 16:23 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-01-07 20:59 Stephen Smalley
2004-08-19 19:01 Updated SELinux release Stephen Smalley
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