From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: mitch.a.williams@intel.com, john.ronciak@intel.com,
jdmason@us.ibm.com, shemminger@osdl.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se, ganesh.venkatesan@intel.com,
jesse.brandeburg@intel.com
Subject: Re: RFC: NAPI packet weighting patch
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:40:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1117827650.6071.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050603.120126.41874584.davem@davemloft.net>
On Fri, 2005-03-06 at 12:01 -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:42:30 -0400
>
> > When you reduce the weight, the system is spending less time in the
> > softirq processing packets before softirq yields. If this gives more
> > opportunity to your app to run, then the performance will go up.
> > Is this what you are seeing?
>
> Jamal, this is my current theory as well, we hit the jiffies
> check.
>
I think you are more than likely right. If we can instrument it Mitch
could check it out. Mitch would you like to try something that will
instrument this? I know i have seen this behavior but it was when i was
playing with some system that had a real small HZ.
> It it the only logical explanation I can come up with for the
> single adapter case.
>
> There are some ways we can mitigate this. Here is one idea
> off the top of my head.
>
> When the jiffies check is hit, lower the weight of the most recently
> polled device towards some minimum (perhaps divide by two). If we
> successfully poll without hitting the jiffies check, make a small
> increment of the weight up to some limit.
>
You probably wanna start high up first until you hit congestion
and then start lowering.
> It is Van Jacobson TCP congestion avoidance applied to NAPI :-)
>
> Just a simple AIMD (Additive Increase, Multiplicative Decrease).
> So, hitting the jiffies work limit is congestion, and the cause
> of the congestion is the most recently polled device.
>
> In this regime, what the driver currently specifies as "->weight"
> is actually the maximum we'll use in the congestion control
> algorithm. And we can choose some constant minimum, something
> like "8" ought to work well.
>
> Comments?
>
In theory it looks good - but i think you end up defeating the fairness
factor. If you can narrow it down to which driver is causing congestion,
and only penalize that driver i think it would work well.
cheers,
jamal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-03 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-03 0:11 RFC: NAPI packet weighting patch Ronciak, John
2005-06-03 0:18 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 2:32 ` jamal
2005-06-03 17:43 ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-03 18:38 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:42 ` jamal
2005-06-03 19:01 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 19:28 ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-03 19:59 ` jamal
2005-06-03 20:31 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 21:12 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-03 20:22 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 20:29 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 19:49 ` Michael Chan
2005-06-03 20:59 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-03 20:35 ` Michael Chan
2005-06-03 22:29 ` jamal
2005-06-04 0:25 ` Michael Chan
2005-06-05 21:36 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-06 6:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 23:26 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-05 20:11 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 21:07 ` Edgar E Iglesias
2005-06-03 23:30 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-03 20:30 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 19:40 ` jamal [this message]
2005-06-03 20:23 ` jamal
2005-06-03 20:28 ` Mitch Williams
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-07 16:23 Ronciak, John
2005-06-07 20:21 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 2:20 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-08 3:31 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 3:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 13:36 ` jamal
2005-06-09 21:37 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-09 22:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-09 22:12 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-09 22:21 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 22:21 ` jamal
2005-06-09 22:22 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 22:20 ` jamal
2005-06-06 20:29 Ronciak, John
2005-06-06 23:55 ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-07 0:08 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-08 1:50 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-07 4:53 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-07 12:38 ` jamal
2005-06-07 12:06 ` Martin Josefsson
2005-06-07 13:29 ` jamal
2005-06-07 12:36 ` Martin Josefsson
2005-06-07 16:34 ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-07 23:19 ` Rick Jones
2005-06-21 20:37 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 7:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22 8:42 ` P
2005-06-22 19:37 ` jamal
2005-06-23 8:56 ` P
2005-06-21 20:20 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-21 20:38 ` Rick Jones
2005-06-21 20:55 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-21 21:47 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 22:22 ` Donald Becker
2005-06-21 22:34 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 0:08 ` Donald Becker
2005-06-22 4:44 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-22 11:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 16:23 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 16:37 ` jamal
2005-06-22 18:00 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 18:06 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 20:22 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 20:35 ` Rick Jones
2005-06-22 20:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 21:10 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 21:16 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 21:53 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-22 22:11 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 21:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22 22:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22 22:30 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 22:23 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-23 12:14 ` jamal
2005-06-23 17:36 ` David Mosberger
2005-06-22 22:42 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 23:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 23:19 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 23:23 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 17:05 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-06 15:35 Ronciak, John
2005-06-06 19:47 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:19 Ronciak, John
2005-06-03 18:33 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 18:49 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:59 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 19:02 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 20:17 ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-03 20:30 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 17:40 Ronciak, John
2005-06-03 18:08 ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-02 21:19 Ronciak, John
2005-06-02 21:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-02 21:40 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-02 21:51 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-02 22:12 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-02 22:19 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-02 22:15 ` Robert Olsson
2005-05-26 21:36 Mitch Williams
2005-05-27 8:21 ` Robert Olsson
2005-05-27 11:18 ` jamal
2005-05-27 15:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-27 20:27 ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-27 21:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-28 0:56 ` jamal
2005-05-31 17:35 ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-31 17:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-31 17:43 ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-31 22:07 ` Jon Mason
2005-05-31 22:14 ` David S. Miller
2005-05-31 23:28 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-02 12:26 ` jamal
2005-06-02 17:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
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