From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: shemminger@osdl.org, mitch.a.williams@intel.com,
john.ronciak@intel.com, mchan@broadcom.com, hadi@cyberus.ca,
buytenh@wantstofly.org, jdmason@us.ibm.com, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se, ganesh.venkatesan@intel.com,
jesse.brandeburg@intel.com
Subject: Re: RFC: NAPI packet weighting patch
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:38:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42B87ACF.3080800@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050621.132044.115910664.davem@davemloft.net>
David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:53:32 -0700
>
>
>>I noticed that the tg3 driver copies packets less than a certain
>>threshold to a new buffer, but e1000 always passes the big buffer up
>>the stack. Could this be having an impact?
>
>
> I bet it does, this makes ACK processing a lot more expensive.
Why would ACK processing care about the size of the buffer containing the ACK
segment?
> And it
> is so much cheaper to just recycle the big buffer back to the chip
> if you copy to a small buffer, and it warms up the caches for the
> packet headers as a side effect as well.
I would think that the cache business would be a wash either way. With 64 byte
cache lines (128 in some cases) just accessing the link-level header has brought
the IP header into the cache, and probably the TCP header as well.
Isn't the decision point between the sum of allocating a small buffer and doing
the copy, versus allocating a new large buffer and (re)mapping it for DMA? I
guess that would come down to copy versus mapping overhead.
> Actually, it has a _HUGE_ _HUGE_ impact. If you pass the big buffer
> up, the receiving socket gets charged for the size of the huge buffer,
> not for just the size of the packet contained within. This makes
> sockets get overcharged for data reception, and it can cause all kinds
> of performance problems.
Then copy when the socket is about to fill with overhead bytes?
> I highly recommend that this gets fixed.
What is the cut-off point for the copy?
rick jones
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-21 20:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-06 20:29 RFC: NAPI packet weighting patch Ronciak, John
2005-06-06 23:55 ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-07 0:08 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-08 1:50 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-07 4:53 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-07 12:38 ` jamal
2005-06-07 12:06 ` Martin Josefsson
2005-06-07 13:29 ` jamal
2005-06-07 12:36 ` Martin Josefsson
2005-06-07 16:34 ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-07 23:19 ` Rick Jones
2005-06-21 20:37 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 7:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22 8:42 ` P
2005-06-22 19:37 ` jamal
2005-06-23 8:56 ` P
2005-06-21 20:20 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-21 20:38 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2005-06-21 20:55 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-21 21:47 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 22:22 ` Donald Becker
2005-06-21 22:34 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 0:08 ` Donald Becker
2005-06-22 4:44 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-22 11:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 16:23 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 16:37 ` jamal
2005-06-22 18:00 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 18:06 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 20:22 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 20:35 ` Rick Jones
2005-06-22 20:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 21:10 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 21:16 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 21:53 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-22 22:11 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 21:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22 22:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22 22:30 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 22:23 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-23 12:14 ` jamal
2005-06-23 17:36 ` David Mosberger
2005-06-22 22:42 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 23:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 23:19 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 23:23 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-23 9:32 ` [PATCH] x86_64 prefetchw() function can take into account CONFIG_MK8 / CONFIG_MPSC Eric Dumazet
2005-06-23 9:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-23 11:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-23 12:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-23 13:10 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 17:05 ` RFC: NAPI packet weighting patch Andi Kleen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-07 16:23 Ronciak, John
2005-06-07 20:21 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 2:20 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-08 3:31 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 3:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 13:36 ` jamal
2005-06-09 21:37 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-09 22:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-09 22:12 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-09 22:21 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 22:21 ` jamal
2005-06-09 22:22 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 22:20 ` jamal
2005-06-06 15:35 Ronciak, John
2005-06-06 19:47 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:19 Ronciak, John
2005-06-03 18:33 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 18:49 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:59 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 19:02 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 20:17 ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-03 20:30 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 17:40 Ronciak, John
2005-06-03 18:08 ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-03 0:11 Ronciak, John
2005-06-03 0:18 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 2:32 ` jamal
2005-06-03 17:43 ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-03 18:38 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:42 ` jamal
2005-06-03 19:01 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 19:28 ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-03 19:59 ` jamal
2005-06-03 20:31 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 21:12 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-03 20:22 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 20:29 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 19:49 ` Michael Chan
2005-06-03 20:59 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-03 20:35 ` Michael Chan
2005-06-03 22:29 ` jamal
2005-06-04 0:25 ` Michael Chan
2005-06-05 21:36 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-06 6:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 23:26 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-05 20:11 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 21:07 ` Edgar E Iglesias
2005-06-03 23:30 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-03 20:30 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 19:40 ` jamal
2005-06-03 20:23 ` jamal
2005-06-03 20:28 ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-02 21:19 Ronciak, John
2005-06-02 21:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-02 21:40 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-02 21:51 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-02 22:12 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-02 22:19 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-02 22:15 ` Robert Olsson
2005-05-26 21:36 Mitch Williams
2005-05-27 8:21 ` Robert Olsson
2005-05-27 11:18 ` jamal
2005-05-27 15:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-27 20:27 ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-27 21:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-28 0:56 ` jamal
2005-05-31 17:35 ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-31 17:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-31 17:43 ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-31 22:07 ` Jon Mason
2005-05-31 22:14 ` David S. Miller
2005-05-31 23:28 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-02 12:26 ` jamal
2005-06-02 17:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
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