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* polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio
@ 2006-07-11 17:23 Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
  2006-07-11 17:28 ` Lee Revell
  2006-07-11 17:29 ` Lee Revell
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Theodoros V. Kalamatianos @ 2006-07-11 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Hi,

According to www.pulseaudio.org the polypaudio project was renamed to 
pulseaudio. As a result the names of the header files and some other stuff 
have changed and alsa-plugins cannot be built with support for pulseaudio. 
I think that a new plugin should be added with support for the new PA 
project. It would probably be mostly a copy of the polyp plugin with 
minimal changes.

Regards,

Theodoros Kalamatianos


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* Re: polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio
  2006-07-11 17:23 polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
@ 2006-07-11 17:28 ` Lee Revell
  2006-07-11 17:29 ` Lee Revell
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lee Revell @ 2006-07-11 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Theodoros V. Kalamatianos; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:23 +0300, Theodoros V. Kalamatianos wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> According to www.pulseaudio.org the polypaudio project was renamed to 
> pulseaudio. As a result the names of the header files and some other stuff 
> have changed and alsa-plugins cannot be built with support for pulseaudio. 
> I think that a new plugin should be added with support for the new PA 
> project. It would probably be mostly a copy of the polyp plugin with 
> minimal changes.

This can be fixed as soon as the polpyaudio/pulseaudio developers submit
patches.

Lee



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* Re: polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio
  2006-07-11 17:23 polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
  2006-07-11 17:28 ` Lee Revell
@ 2006-07-11 17:29 ` Lee Revell
  2006-07-11 21:06   ` Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lee Revell @ 2006-07-11 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Theodoros V. Kalamatianos; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:23 +0300, Theodoros V. Kalamatianos wrote:
> the new PA 
> project 

BTW, someone should tell them this is a TERRIBLE acronym - it collides
with the PortAudio project which has existed for years.

Lee



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* Re: polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio
  2006-07-11 17:29 ` Lee Revell
@ 2006-07-11 21:06   ` Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
  2006-07-11 21:26     ` Lee Revell
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Theodoros V. Kalamatianos @ 2006-07-11 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lee Revell; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Lee Revell wrote:

> On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:23 +0300, Theodoros V. Kalamatianos wrote:
>> the new PA
>> project
>
> BTW, someone should tell them this is a TERRIBLE acronym - it collides
> with the PortAudio project which has existed for years.

Actually I only used the acronym because I was too bored to write both 
project names. There is nothing official about it, although AFAIK all 
function names in the library do have a pa_ prefix...


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* Re: polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio
  2006-07-11 21:06   ` Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
@ 2006-07-11 21:26     ` Lee Revell
  2006-07-11 22:12       ` Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lee Revell @ 2006-07-11 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Theodoros V. Kalamatianos; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 00:06 +0300, Theodoros V. Kalamatianos wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:23 +0300, Theodoros V. Kalamatianos wrote:
> >> the new PA
> >> project
> >
> > BTW, someone should tell them this is a TERRIBLE acronym - it collides
> > with the PortAudio project which has existed for years.
> 
> Actually I only used the acronym because I was too bored to write both 
> project names. There is nothing official about it, although AFAIK all 
> function names in the library do have a pa_ prefix...
> 

Yup, that bothers me too.  Also the fact that they seem to have
developed PulseAudio in complete isolation - they did not as much as
post to the ALSA list before it was done.  How do we even know it was
necessary to develop yet another sound server, rather than improve ALSA?
It reeks of NIH.

Lee



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* Re: polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio
  2006-07-11 21:26     ` Lee Revell
@ 2006-07-11 22:12       ` Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
  2006-07-11 22:21         ` Lee Revell
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Theodoros V. Kalamatianos @ 2006-07-11 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lee Revell; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Lee Revell wrote:

> Yup, that bothers me too.  Also the fact that they seem to have
> developed PulseAudio in complete isolation - they did not as much as
> post to the ALSA list before it was done.  How do we even know it was
> necessary to develop yet another sound server, rather than improve ALSA?

I suppose that PulseAudio has a networked aspect that may be out of the 
scope of ALSA and its design seems more flexible than ESD and less complex 
than JACK, but I don't know how it measures up to other sound servers like 
artsd or NAS. I seem to remember though that the polyp ALSA plugin was 
developed after a bounty from some company, so its necessity may have not 
been examined very objectively - money does have the tendency to twist the 
way people think :-)

> It reeks of NIH.

NIH = ?

> Lee

Regards,

Theodoros Kalamatianos


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* Re: polypaudio renamed to pulseaudio
  2006-07-11 22:12       ` Theodoros V. Kalamatianos
@ 2006-07-11 22:21         ` Lee Revell
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lee Revell @ 2006-07-11 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Theodoros V. Kalamatianos; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 01:12 +0300, Theodoros V. Kalamatianos wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
> > It reeks of NIH.
> 
> NIH = ?
> 

Not Invented Here.  The tendency in software development to constantly
reinvent the wheel by writing your own system rather than improving on
what's already available.

Lee



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