From: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RT: Add priority-queuing and priority-inheritance to workqueue infrastructure
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:34:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1186000468.2636.168.camel@imap.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070801201802.GA225@tv-sign.ru>
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 00:18 +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/01, Daniel Walker wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 22:12 +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > > And I personally think it is not very useful, even if it was correct.
> > > You can create your own workqueue and change the priority of cwq->thread.
> >
> > This change is more dynamic than than just setting a single priority ..
> > There was some other work going on around this, so it's not totally
> > clear what the benefits are ..
>
> Yes, I see. But still I think the whole idea is broken, not just the
> implementation.
It's translating priorities through the work queues, which doesn't seem
to happen with the current implementation. A high priority, say
SCHED_FIFO priority 99, task may have to wait for a nice -5 work queue
to finish.. You can set the priority of your work queue, but you never
know what the priority of the tasks are that use the work queue ..
> What about delayed_work? insert_work() will use ->normal_prio of
> the random interrupted process, while queue_work() uses current.
Actually it would be the priority of the timer softirq .. I think what
is desired here would be saving the priority of the task calling
delayed_work then using that..
> What if a niced thread queues the work? This work may have no chance
> to run if workqueue is actively used.
Yes , if it actively used by higher priority threads .. We could
restrict it to SCHED_FIFO/SCHED_RR tho ..
> > As the topic suggests , it's a Real Time kernel .. I can give you a link
> > where to download it if you want.
>
> Ok, thanks, I'll take a look. Still, we can't use raw_smp_processor_id()
> unless we disabled cpu-hotplug.
I didn't touch this particular piece of code, but I'm assuming the
raw_smp_processor_id() is safe giving the rest of the code in -rt ..
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-01 20:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-01 0:26 [PATCH] RT: Add priority-queuing and priority-inheritance to workqueue infrastructure Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 3:52 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 11:59 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 15:10 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 15:19 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 15:55 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 17:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 21:48 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-08-01 17:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-01 17:10 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 18:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:39 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:29 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 20:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 20:43 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:34 ` Daniel Walker [this message]
2007-08-01 20:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 21:02 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 21:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 21:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 21:59 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 22:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 23:53 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-02 19:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 11:35 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 14:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 14:57 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 15:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 15:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 16:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 16:57 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-06 13:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 13:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 14:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 16:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 15:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 15:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 19:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 19:37 ` Gregory Haskins
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