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From: Brett Lentz <blentz@cardomain.com>
To: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus <stefan@seekline.net>,
	Chad Sellers <csellers@tresys.com>,
	Karl MacMillan <kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: concept of a permissive domain
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:52:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1192467177.28762.7.camel@blentz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47135FCE.5000403@redhat.com>

On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 08:40 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> >> - From the user point of view we could change the setenforce command
> >>
> >> setenforce 0
> >> setenforce httpd_t 0
> >>
> >> getenforce 0
> >> getenforce httpd_t 0
> >>
> >> Then we could replace both to do something in semanage to rebuild and
> >> reload policy.
> > 
> > But that would mean e.g. consider apache that you would have to
> > setenforce for every domain type?
> > 
> > apache_t
> > apache_helper_t
> > apache_php_t
> > httpd_rotatelogs_t
> > httpd_suexec_t
> > ...
> > 
> > There wouldn't be a setenforce for a whole module, right?
> > 
> > 	Stefan
> > 
> Yes although it is doubtful you would have all of those running at the
> same time.  (httpd_t and httpd_helper_t).
> 
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As an SELinux user, it makes the most sense to me for this capability to
be accessible on a per-module basis rather than per-domain.

I would much rather set the httpd module as a whole to permissive rather
than fiddle around trying to A) set all of httpd's domains to permissive
and B) requiring a fairly significant amount of knowledge of the
security policy to know which domains may require this intervention.

I think that per-domain permissive is probably useful for certain kinds
of policy development, but per-module permissive would be significantly
more useful for the work that I'm currently doing with SELinux.

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One organism, one vote.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-15 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-11 19:13 concept of a permissive domain Eric Paris
2007-09-11 20:31 ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-09-11 21:26   ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-11 21:47     ` Eric Paris
2007-09-12 13:27       ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-12 13:57         ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-09-13 14:08     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-13 14:46       ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-13 14:57         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-13 15:25           ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-13 19:25           ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-09-13 19:38             ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-13 20:16               ` Eric Paris
2007-09-18 20:24                 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-18 20:50                   ` Joshua Brindle
2007-09-18 21:54                   ` Chad Sellers
2007-09-19 12:56                     ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-09-19 14:22                       ` Chad Sellers
2007-10-12 13:50                       ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-10-12 17:49                         ` Joshua Brindle
2007-10-12 18:07                           ` Eric Paris
2007-10-12 19:03                             ` Karl MacMillan
2007-10-12 19:09                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-12 18:40                         ` Chad Sellers
2007-10-12 19:05                           ` Karl MacMillan
2007-10-12 20:43                             ` Chad Sellers
2007-10-12 21:01                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-12 21:21                               ` Karl MacMillan
2007-10-12 23:38                                 ` Chad Sellers
2007-10-13 13:38                                   ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-10-14 10:14                                     ` Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus
2007-10-15 12:40                                       ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-10-15 16:52                                         ` Brett Lentz [this message]
2007-10-15 16:58                                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-15 18:32                                             ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-10-15 18:40                                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-15 18:57                                                 ` Karl MacMillan
2007-10-15 19:09                                                 ` Eric Paris
2007-10-17 19:47                                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-17 21:50                                                     ` Recurring SELinux events for similar violations Hasan Rezaul-CHR010
2007-10-17 22:18                                                       ` Eric Paris
2007-10-17 22:22                                                         ` Hasan Rezaul-CHR010
2007-10-18 13:13                                                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-18 14:32                                                             ` Hasan Rezaul-CHR010
2007-11-29 20:06                                                             ` Hasan Rezaul-CHR010
2007-11-29 20:16                                                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-11-29 21:26                                                                 ` Hasan Rezaul-CHR010
2007-11-29 21:32                                                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-11-29 21:45                                                                     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-15 17:26                                           ` concept of a permissive domain Chad Sellers
2007-10-12 19:07                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-12 19:30                             ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-19 16:35                     ` Martin Orr
2007-09-19 16:41                       ` Eric Paris
2007-09-20 14:41                         ` Joshua Brindle
2007-09-20 14:46                           ` Joshua Brindle
2007-09-19 16:52                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-24 14:59                   ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-13 20:25               ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-14 14:15               ` James Carter
2007-09-14 14:45                 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-09-14 15:15                   ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-11 22:57 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-09-12 13:26   ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-13 13:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-13 13:19   ` Karl MacMillan
2007-09-13 13:25     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-13 13:59       ` Eric Paris
2007-09-13 14:23         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-13 14:36           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-09-13 14:42           ` Karl MacMillan

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