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From: Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk>
To: David Greaves <david@dgreaves.com>
Cc: David Rees <drees76@gmail.com>, David Lethe <david@santools.com>,
	alex14641@yahoo.com, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Sharing disks amoung multiple software RAIDs
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 23:43:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1209764630.7827.15.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <481AD006.6050708@dgreaves.com>

On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 09:25 +0100, David Greaves wrote:
> Kasper Sandberg wrote:
> > Im not treating it as a backup, what i want, is to make sure that if 1
> > disk dies, the data is still intact and ill hopefully be able to run
> > with 1 disk till the newly ordered one arrives
> Probably one of the main design objectives behind RAID/md

Exactly, but once people start saying: "Look how many problems people
post to the thread on
a weekly basis where people lose their data when md rebuilds go bad with
non-shared disks" i begin to worry..

> 
> > So my question remains.. Is md raid1 not suited for this need? would it
> > be safer to run in non-raid1 mode and daily(maybe hourly) rsync
> > everything over to the second disk?
> 
> md is 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> rsync is 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> your backups are 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> your hard drives are 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> your CPU and RAM are 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> your CPU and PSU fans are 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> 
> Clearly if you want to panic over reliability you have lots of choices :)

I do not wish to panic, i merely wished to know if linux MD is believed
to work in most cases, or believed to do all sorts of weird stuff when
resyncing :)

> 
> David
> PS, FWIW md has saved my data* countless times over the past 'n' years in
> exactly the scenario you describe.

It has also been useful to people i know, i just wished to be sure :)
and as Keld Jørn Simonsen and Helge Hafting's comments seems to confirm,
linux md IS nice and stable :)

and as said, what im looking for isnt an in-box backup solution, merely
safety in case one disk burns :)

> 
> *(or more accurately has saved me from having to restore my data)

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From: Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk>
To: David Greaves <david@dgreaves.com>
Cc: David Rees <drees76@gmail.com>, David Lethe <david@santools.com>,
	alex14641@yahoo.com, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Sharing disks amoung multiple software RAIDs
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 23:43:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1209764630.7827.15.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <481AD006.6050708@dgreaves.com>

On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 09:25 +0100, David Greaves wrote:
> Kasper Sandberg wrote:
> > Im not treating it as a backup, what i want, is to make sure that if 1
> > disk dies, the data is still intact and ill hopefully be able to run
> > with 1 disk till the newly ordered one arrives
> Probably one of the main design objectives behind RAID/md

Exactly, but once people start saying: "Look how many problems people
post to the thread on
a weekly basis where people lose their data when md rebuilds go bad with
non-shared disks" i begin to worry..

> 
> > So my question remains.. Is md raid1 not suited for this need? would it
> > be safer to run in non-raid1 mode and daily(maybe hourly) rsync
> > everything over to the second disk?
> 
> md is 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> rsync is 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> your backups are 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> your hard drives are 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> your CPU and RAM are 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> your CPU and PSU fans are 100% guaranteed perfect or your money back...
> 
> Clearly if you want to panic over reliability you have lots of choices :)

I do not wish to panic, i merely wished to know if linux MD is believed
to work in most cases, or believed to do all sorts of weird stuff when
resyncing :)

> 
> David
> PS, FWIW md has saved my data* countless times over the past 'n' years in
> exactly the scenario you describe.

It has also been useful to people i know, i just wished to be sure :)
and as Keld Jørn Simonsen and Helge Hafting's comments seems to confirm,
linux md IS nice and stable :)

and as said, what im looking for isnt an in-box backup solution, merely
safety in case one disk burns :)

> 
> *(or more accurately has saved me from having to restore my data)


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-02 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-01 11:35 Sharing disks amoung multiple software RAIDs Alex Davis
2008-05-01 12:50 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-01 13:42   ` Alex Davis
2008-05-02 21:24     ` Bill Davidsen
2008-05-02  1:39   ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-02  1:51     ` Alex Davis
2008-05-02  2:31       ` David Lethe
2008-05-02  2:31         ` David Lethe
2008-05-02  2:42         ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-02  7:06           ` David Rees
2008-05-02  8:09             ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-02  8:25               ` David Greaves
2008-05-02 21:43                 ` Kasper Sandberg [this message]
2008-05-02 21:43                   ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-02 22:04                   ` Alex Davis
2008-05-02 22:24                   ` David Lethe
2008-05-02 22:24                     ` David Lethe
2008-05-03  0:44                     ` Alex Davis
2008-05-03 10:13                       ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-05-03  3:11                     ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-02 10:25               ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
     [not found]                 ` <481E0726.1030501@harddata.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20080504212927.GB20650@rap.rap.dk>
     [not found]                     ` <481E3374.4070105@harddata.com>
2008-05-04 23:10                       ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-05-04 23:17                         ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-05-02 13:43               ` Helge Hafting
2008-05-02 14:13                 ` Alex Davis
2008-05-01 12:51 ` David Greaves
2008-05-02  1:23 ` Nick Andrew
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-02  8:36 George Spelvin
2008-05-02 11:07 ` Alex Davis
2008-05-02 13:26   ` Richard Michael

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