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From: Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Skip tsc synchronization checks if CONSTANT_TSC bit is set.
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:00:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224712846.13953.37.camel@alok-dev1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081022195845.GP12825@one.firstfloor.org>

[dropped LKML of the cc list]

Hi Andi,

On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:58 -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > We also force set the CONSTANT_TSC capability bit if we are running on
> > VMware, since the VMware hypervisor exports a constant TSC to the guest.
> 
> NAK.
> 
> The whole point of this is to eliminate the need for vmware detection,
> which is something the kernel shouldn't need to know about.
> Instead VMware should supply that bit by itself and then Linux could
> do the right thing. The only change you would need to do is to always
> check it for all CPU vendors, not just AMD.

Yeah, i can add that code which checks for that bit, for all cpu
vendors. And yes we can supply that bit with our future products.

> Adding it with vmware detection code is not useful.

The VMware detection code is something that's needed anyways for other
purposes(getting tsc_freq right now). So the code which force sets this
TSC_CONSTANT bit is trivial.
Apart from that, as i said yesterday, this should be viewed as a special
case for VMware products which don't already set this bit. Changing the
behavior for already existing products is not feasible.

Thanks,
Alok

> 
> -Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-22 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-21  1:35 [PATCH 0/3] Improve TSC as a clocksource under VMware Alok Kataria
2008-10-21  5:55 ` Chris Snook
2008-10-21 19:11   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:26   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:29     ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-21  9:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:41   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 17:40     ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 18:04       ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 18:15         ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 19:10           ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 19:27             ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 19:47               ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 21:41                 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:23               ` [PATCH] Skip tsc synchronization checks if CONSTANT_TSC bit is set Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 19:30                   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 20:17                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:04                     ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:58                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:00                   ` Alok Kataria [this message]
2008-10-22 22:13                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:11                       ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 22:54                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23  2:21                           ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-23  8:10                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 23:39                               ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-23 23:47                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24  0:25                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24  0:46                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24  7:23                                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 15:30                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 19:25                                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 19:19                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 19:34                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 19:50                                                 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-24 20:18                                             ` Dan Hecht
2008-10-24  1:12                                   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-24  1:18                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-22 22:15                     ` Alan Cox
2008-10-22 22:17                       ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21  9:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] Improve TSC as a clocksource under VMware Pavel Machek
2008-10-21 16:48   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 18:36     ` Pavel Machek

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