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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: akataria@vmware.com
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Skip tsc synchronization checks if CONSTANT_TSC bit is set.
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:47:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49010D1E.8070400@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224805162.21776.45.camel@alok-dev1>

Alok Kataria wrote:
> 
> I am ok with the CONSTANT_TSC bit check, but if people think that its
> not important to skip this for native, i think adding a new flag to skip
> this should be safe enough.
> 
> Ingo, HPA your views on this whole detection and skipping thing ? 
> 

Okay, first of all, I'm somewhat leery (to put it mildly) of trusting a 
CPUID bit to tell me a *system* property, which is that all cores in the 
system are synchronized.  The CPU designer will know that all the cores 
in the *package* are synchronized, but if that extends system-wide is a 
property beyond the CPU.  Now, if I'm not completely mistaken, in the 
case of AMD this bit is actually set by the BIOS via a magic MSR, but 
that doesn't mean it can't be wrong.

As far as skipping the check, it makes sense for me in the case of known 
virtualization platforms; a CPU feature bit, real or synthetic, is a 
very clean way to do that.  In general we should centralize CPU 
knowledge to arch/x86/kernel/cpu and have the code outside look for 
specific feature flags, and that applies to virtualization platforms, too.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-23 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-21  1:35 [PATCH 0/3] Improve TSC as a clocksource under VMware Alok Kataria
2008-10-21  5:55 ` Chris Snook
2008-10-21 19:11   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:26   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:29     ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-21  9:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:41   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 17:40     ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 18:04       ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 18:15         ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 19:10           ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 19:27             ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 19:47               ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 21:41                 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:23               ` [PATCH] Skip tsc synchronization checks if CONSTANT_TSC bit is set Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 19:30                   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 20:17                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:04                     ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:58                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:00                   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 22:13                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:11                       ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 22:54                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23  2:21                           ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-23  8:10                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 23:39                               ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-23 23:47                                 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-10-24  0:25                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24  0:46                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24  7:23                                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 15:30                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 19:25                                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 19:19                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 19:34                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 19:50                                                 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-24 20:18                                             ` Dan Hecht
2008-10-24  1:12                                   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-24  1:18                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-22 22:15                     ` Alan Cox
2008-10-22 22:17                       ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21  9:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] Improve TSC as a clocksource under VMware Pavel Machek
2008-10-21 16:48   ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 18:36     ` Pavel Machek

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