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From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham-lkml@crca.org.au>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Doug Thompson <norsk5@yahoo.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, bluesmoke-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: marching through all physical memory in software
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:00:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1233320451.11332.13.camel@nigel-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090130091304.GA9495@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

Hi again.

On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 10:13 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 20:38 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > You can do the scrubbing today by echo reboot > /sys/power/disk; echo
> > > disk > /sys/power/state :-)... or using uswsusp APIs.
> > 
> > That won't work. The RAM retains its contents across a reboot, and even
> > for a little while after powering off.
> 
> Yes, and the original goal was to rewrite all the memory with same
> contents so that parity errors don't accumulate. SO scrubbing here !=
> trying to clear it.

Sorry - I think I missed something.

AFAICS, hibernating is going to be a noop as far as doing anything to
memory that's not touched by the process of hibernating goes. It won't
clear it or scrub it or anything else.

Regards,

Nigel


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham-lkml@crca.org.au>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Doug Thompson <norsk5@yahoo.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, bluesmoke-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: marching through all physical memory in software
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:00:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1233320451.11332.13.camel@nigel-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090130091304.GA9495@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

Hi again.

On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 10:13 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 20:38 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > You can do the scrubbing today by echo reboot > /sys/power/disk; echo
> > > disk > /sys/power/state :-)... or using uswsusp APIs.
> > 
> > That won't work. The RAM retains its contents across a reboot, and even
> > for a little while after powering off.
> 
> Yes, and the original goal was to rewrite all the memory with same
> contents so that parity errors don't accumulate. SO scrubbing here !=
> trying to clear it.

Sorry - I think I missed something.

AFAICS, hibernating is going to be a noop as far as doing anything to
memory that's not touched by the process of hibernating goes. It won't
clear it or scrub it or anything else.

Regards,

Nigel

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-30 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-26 15:38 marching through all physical memory in software Chris Friesen
2009-01-26 15:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-27 18:29   ` Chris Friesen
2009-01-27 20:16     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-27 20:16       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-28 19:38       ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-28 19:38         ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  9:05         ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-30  9:05           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-30  9:13           ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  9:13             ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30 13:00             ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2009-01-30 13:00               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-03-05 22:16           ` [Patch] mm tracepoints Larry Woodman
2009-03-06  2:11             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-06  2:26               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-06 11:04                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 12:33                   ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 13:55                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 16:57                       ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 17:10                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 17:38                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 17:46                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 17:56                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 18:01                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 18:20                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 18:24                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 20:01                                 ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 19:06                             ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 21:53                             ` Chris Friesen
2009-03-06 19:22                           ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-25 18:09                         ` Latest mm tracepoints patch merged to your tip tree Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 21:16             ` [Patch] mm tracepoints Andrew Morton
2009-03-06 21:16               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-06  9:00 ` marching through all physical memory in software Andi Kleen
2009-02-07  3:03   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found] <715599.77204.qm@web50111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
2009-01-30 19:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-30 19:32   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-30 20:20   ` Tim Small
2009-01-30 20:20     ` Tim Small
2009-01-31  3:54     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-31  3:54       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-31 12:48       ` Tim Small
2009-01-31 12:48         ` Tim Small
2009-01-31 13:43         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-01-31 13:43           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-01-31 21:27           ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-31 21:27             ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-01  1:25             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-02-01  1:25               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-01-30 21:10   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-30 21:10     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-02 18:29   ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-02 18:29     ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-02 22:45     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-02-03 14:31       ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-03 14:31         ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-03 22:25         ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-03 22:25           ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-04 16:03           ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-04 16:03             ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-04 16:47           ` Dave Jiang
2009-02-04 16:47             ` Dave Jiang

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