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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Doug Thompson <norsk5@yahoo.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, bluesmoke-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: marching through all physical memory in software
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:38:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090128193813.GD1222@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1vds0bj2j.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On Tue 2009-01-27 12:16:52, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com> writes:
> 
> > Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:38:13 -0600
> >> "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Someone is asking me about the feasability of "scrubbing" system
> >>> memory by accessing each page and handling the ECC faults.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would suggest that you look at the "edac" subsystem, which tries to
> >> do exactly this....
> 
> 
> > edac appears to currently be able to scrub the specific page where the fault
> > occurred.  This is a useful building block, but doesn't provide the ability to
> > march through all of physical memory.
> 
> Well that is the tricky part.  The rest is simply finding which physical
> addresses are valid.  Either by querying the memory controller or looking
> at the range the BIOS gave us.
> 
> That part should not be too hard.  I think it simply has not been implemented
> yet as most ECC chipsets implement this in hardware today.

You can do the scrubbing today by echo reboot > /sys/power/disk; echo
disk > /sys/power/state :-)... or using uswsusp APIs.

Take a look at hibernation code for 'walk all memory' examples...  

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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Doug Thompson <norsk5@yahoo.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, bluesmoke-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: marching through all physical memory in software
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:38:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090128193813.GD1222@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1vds0bj2j.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On Tue 2009-01-27 12:16:52, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com> writes:
> 
> > Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:38:13 -0600
> >> "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Someone is asking me about the feasability of "scrubbing" system
> >>> memory by accessing each page and handling the ECC faults.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would suggest that you look at the "edac" subsystem, which tries to
> >> do exactly this....
> 
> 
> > edac appears to currently be able to scrub the specific page where the fault
> > occurred.  This is a useful building block, but doesn't provide the ability to
> > march through all of physical memory.
> 
> Well that is the tricky part.  The rest is simply finding which physical
> addresses are valid.  Either by querying the memory controller or looking
> at the range the BIOS gave us.
> 
> That part should not be too hard.  I think it simply has not been implemented
> yet as most ECC chipsets implement this in hardware today.

You can do the scrubbing today by echo reboot > /sys/power/disk; echo
disk > /sys/power/state :-)... or using uswsusp APIs.

Take a look at hibernation code for 'walk all memory' examples...  

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-30  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-26 15:38 marching through all physical memory in software Chris Friesen
2009-01-26 15:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-27 18:29   ` Chris Friesen
2009-01-27 20:16     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-27 20:16       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-28 19:38       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-01-28 19:38         ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  9:05         ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-30  9:05           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-30  9:13           ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  9:13             ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30 13:00             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-30 13:00               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-03-05 22:16           ` [Patch] mm tracepoints Larry Woodman
2009-03-06  2:11             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-06  2:26               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-06 11:04                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 12:33                   ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 13:55                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 16:57                       ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 17:10                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 17:38                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 17:46                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 17:56                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 18:01                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 18:20                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 18:24                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 20:01                                 ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 19:06                             ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 21:53                             ` Chris Friesen
2009-03-06 19:22                           ` Larry Woodman
2009-03-25 18:09                         ` Latest mm tracepoints patch merged to your tip tree Larry Woodman
2009-03-06 21:16             ` [Patch] mm tracepoints Andrew Morton
2009-03-06 21:16               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-06  9:00 ` marching through all physical memory in software Andi Kleen
2009-02-07  3:03   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found] <715599.77204.qm@web50111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
2009-01-30 19:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-30 19:32   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-30 20:20   ` Tim Small
2009-01-30 20:20     ` Tim Small
2009-01-31  3:54     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-31  3:54       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-31 12:48       ` Tim Small
2009-01-31 12:48         ` Tim Small
2009-01-31 13:43         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-01-31 13:43           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-01-31 21:27           ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-31 21:27             ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-01  1:25             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-02-01  1:25               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-01-30 21:10   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-30 21:10     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-02 18:29   ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-02 18:29     ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-02 22:45     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-02-03 14:31       ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-03 14:31         ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-03 22:25         ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-03 22:25           ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-04 16:03           ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-04 16:03             ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-04 16:47           ` Dave Jiang
2009-02-04 16:47             ` Dave Jiang

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