* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
@ 2009-07-17 0:15 Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-17 2:31 ` Pavel Roskin
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From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2009-07-17 0:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
should have our ar9280 MAC.
http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
Luis
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-17 0:15 [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n Luis R. Rodriguez
@ 2009-07-17 2:31 ` Pavel Roskin
2009-07-17 16:32 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-19 0:07 ` Sinan Akman
2009-07-20 18:59 ` Clyde McPherson
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Roskin @ 2009-07-17 2:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 17:15 -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>
> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
Is there anything special about this card, or you just want to be sure
it's ath9k compatible? The large picture shows AR9220 clearly. The
card is available from US retailers too:
http://www.flytec-usa.com/detpro.cfm?wid=46612
--
Regards,
Pavel Roskin
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-17 2:31 ` Pavel Roskin
@ 2009-07-17 16:32 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2009-07-17 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Pavel Roskin<proski@gnu.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 17:15 -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
>> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>>
>> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
>
> Is there anything special about this card, or you just want to be sure
> it's ath9k compatible?
Its special to me because it has an AR9280 MAC, its the first miniPCI
card I see out in the retail market sold externally with an AR9280
MAC. But I also have never tested AR9220, so curious if it will work.
> ?The large picture shows AR9220 clearly. ?The
> card is available from US retailers too:
>
> http://www.flytec-usa.com/detpro.cfm?wid=46612
Nice, thanks!
Luis
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-17 0:15 [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-17 2:31 ` Pavel Roskin
@ 2009-07-19 0:07 ` Sinan Akman
2009-07-20 15:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-27 16:43 ` Sinan Akman
2009-07-20 18:59 ` Clyde McPherson
2 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sinan Akman @ 2009-07-19 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>
> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
FWIW, I tested R2N briefly which has ar9223 instead and it works in AP with simple PSK
config.
I'll also test R52N when I receive it and have time in the coming weeks.
Let me know if you are interested in a particular config.
-- sinan
>
> Luis
> _______________________________________________
> ath9k-devel mailing list
> ath9k-devel at lists.ath9k.org
> https://lists.ath9k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath9k-devel
>
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-19 0:07 ` Sinan Akman
@ 2009-07-20 15:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-20 19:14 ` Sinan Akman
2009-07-27 16:43 ` Sinan Akman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2009-07-20 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 05:07:49PM -0700, Sinan Akman wrote:
> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
> > should have our ar9280 MAC.
> >
> > http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
>
> FWIW, I tested R2N briefly which has ar9223 instead and it works in AP with simple PSK
> config.
Nice, added to the wiki external products page, thanks, do you have the output of loading
a recent ath9k driver with that?
> I'll also test R52N when I receive it and have time in the coming weeks.
> Let me know if you are interested in a particular config.
That would be great, thanks.
Luis
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-17 0:15 [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-17 2:31 ` Pavel Roskin
2009-07-19 0:07 ` Sinan Akman
@ 2009-07-20 18:59 ` Clyde McPherson
2009-07-20 19:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-20 20:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Clyde McPherson @ 2009-07-20 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
I have a Ubiquiti SR71C (Atheros AR9220) Cardbus and work fine (B & G
modes). Associates good and monitor mode works. I haven't tried N yet, I
need to get a N router.
Clyde McPherson
> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>
> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
>
> Luis
> _______________________________________________
> ath9k-devel mailing list
> ath9k-devel at lists.ath9k.org
> https://lists.ath9k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath9k-devel
>
>
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-20 18:59 ` Clyde McPherson
@ 2009-07-20 19:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-20 20:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2009-07-20 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Clyde McPherson<ccmcphe@verizon.net> wrote:
> I have a Ubiquiti SR71C (Atheros AR9220) Cardbus and work fine (B & G
> modes). Associates good and monitor mode works. I haven't tried N yet, I
> need to get a N router.
Nice, mind showing the output of loading ath9k?
Luis
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-20 15:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
@ 2009-07-20 19:14 ` Sinan Akman
2009-07-20 19:21 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sinan Akman @ 2009-07-20 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 05:07:49PM -0700, Sinan Akman wrote:
>> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
>>> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>>>
>>> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
>> FWIW, I tested R2N briefly which has ar9223 instead and it works in AP with simple PSK
>> config.
>
> Nice, added to the wiki external products page, thanks, do you have the output of loading
> a recent ath9k driver with that?
from dmesg :
phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'ath9k_rate_control'
Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::radio
Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::assoc
Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::tx
Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::rx
phy0: Atheros AR9280 MAC/BB Rev:2 AR5133 RF Rev:d0: mem=0xc50e0000, irq=18
also :
# lspci
[..]
00:11.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR922X Wireless Network
Adapter (rev 01)
# uname -a
Linux uclibc 2.6.30 #1 Thu Jul 2 18:23:32 EDT 2009 ppc unknown
This is with hostapd v0.6.9.
I also see enter/exit power save mode continuously :
Jul 20 02:53:09 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
exits power save mode
Jul 20 02:54:12 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
enters power save mode
Jul 20 02:54:14 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
exits power save mode
....
>
>> I'll also test R52N when I receive it and have time in the coming weeks.
>> Let me know if you are interested in a particular config.
>
> That would be great, thanks.
I'll update you on R52N hopefully later in the week. Let me know
if you need any other log output.
-- sinan
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-20 19:14 ` Sinan Akman
@ 2009-07-20 19:21 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-20 19:51 ` Sinan Akman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2009-07-20 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:14:37PM -0700, Sinan Akman wrote:
> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 05:07:49PM -0700, Sinan Akman wrote:
> >> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >>> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
> >>> should have our ar9280 MAC.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
> >> FWIW, I tested R2N briefly which has ar9223 instead and it works in AP with simple PSK
> >> config.
> >
> > Nice, added to the wiki external products page, thanks, do you have the output of loading
> > a recent ath9k driver with that?
>
> from dmesg :
>
> phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'ath9k_rate_control'
> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::radio
> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::assoc
> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::tx
> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::rx
> phy0: Atheros AR9280 MAC/BB Rev:2 AR5133 RF Rev:d0: mem=0xc50e0000, irq=18
Thanks, I was looking for the AR5133, the radio.
>
> also :
>
> # lspci
> [..]
> 00:11.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR922X Wireless Network
> Adapter (rev 01)
>
> # uname -a
> Linux uclibc 2.6.30 #1 Thu Jul 2 18:23:32 EDT 2009 ppc unknown
>
> This is with hostapd v0.6.9.
>
> I also see enter/exit power save mode continuously :
>
> Jul 20 02:53:09 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
> exits power save mode
> Jul 20 02:54:12 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
> enters power save mode
> Jul 20 02:54:14 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
> exits power save mode
> ....
Who is 00:0f:66:70:87:37?
Luis
> >
> >> I'll also test R52N when I receive it and have time in the coming weeks.
> >> Let me know if you are interested in a particular config.
> >
> > That would be great, thanks.
>
> I'll update you on R52N hopefully later in the week. Let me know
> if you need any other log output.
>
> -- sinan
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-20 19:21 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
@ 2009-07-20 19:51 ` Sinan Akman
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sinan Akman @ 2009-07-20 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:14:37PM -0700, Sinan Akman wrote:
>> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 05:07:49PM -0700, Sinan Akman wrote:
>>>> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>>>> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
>>>>> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
>>>> FWIW, I tested R2N briefly which has ar9223 instead and it works in AP with simple PSK
>>>> config.
>>> Nice, added to the wiki external products page, thanks, do you have the output of loading
>>> a recent ath9k driver with that?
>> from dmesg :
>>
>> phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'ath9k_rate_control'
>> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::radio
>> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::assoc
>> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::tx
>> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::rx
>> phy0: Atheros AR9280 MAC/BB Rev:2 AR5133 RF Rev:d0: mem=0xc50e0000, irq=18
>
> Thanks, I was looking for the AR5133, the radio.
>
>> also :
>>
>> # lspci
>> [..]
>> 00:11.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR922X Wireless Network
>> Adapter (rev 01)
>>
>> # uname -a
>> Linux uclibc 2.6.30 #1 Thu Jul 2 18:23:32 EDT 2009 ppc unknown
>>
>> This is with hostapd v0.6.9.
>>
>> I also see enter/exit power save mode continuously :
>>
>> Jul 20 02:53:09 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
>> exits power save mode
>> Jul 20 02:54:12 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
>> enters power save mode
>> Jul 20 02:54:14 uclibc user.debug kernel: wlan0: STA 00:0f:66:70:87:37 aid 1
>> exits power save mode
>> ....
>
> Who is 00:0f:66:70:87:37?
This is indeed not related. it is from the PC in
the music studio next door, a Linksys G-PCI I believe.
I used it for testing to associate.
Let me know if you need other logs as well.
-- sinan
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-20 18:59 ` Clyde McPherson
2009-07-20 19:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
@ 2009-07-20 20:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-07-21 14:43 ` Simon Brunette
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2009-07-20 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:59:00AM -0700, Clyde McPherson wrote:
> I have a Ubiquiti SR71C (Atheros AR9220) Cardbus and work fine (B & G
> modes). Associates good and monitor mode works. I haven't tried N yet, I
> need to get a N router.
what's the output of loading ath9k on this? First Cardbus dual band I see
in the market!
Luis
>
> Clyde McPherson
>
> > Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
> > should have our ar9280 MAC.
> >
> > http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
> >
> > Luis
> > _______________________________________________
> > ath9k-devel mailing list
> > ath9k-devel at lists.ath9k.org
> > https://lists.ath9k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath9k-devel
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> ath9k-devel mailing list
> ath9k-devel at lists.ath9k.org
> https://lists.ath9k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath9k-devel
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-20 20:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
@ 2009-07-21 14:43 ` Simon Brunette
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Simon Brunette @ 2009-07-21 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:59:00AM -0700, Clyde McPherson wrote:
>> I have a Ubiquiti SR71C (Atheros AR9220) Cardbus and work fine (B & G
>> modes). Associates good and monitor mode works. I haven't tried N yet, I
>> need to get a N router.
>
> what's the output of loading ath9k on this? First Cardbus dual band I see
> in the market!
>
> Luis
>
>> Clyde McPherson
>>
>>> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
>>> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>>>
>>> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
>>>
>>> Luis
>>> _______________________________________________
Good day,
I'm was also looking at purchasing these. Does anyone know if they will
work in monitor mode on the 'N' band?
Thanks
Simon
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-19 0:07 ` Sinan Akman
2009-07-20 15:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
@ 2009-07-27 16:43 ` Sinan Akman
2009-07-27 18:42 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sinan Akman @ 2009-07-27 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
Sinan Akman wrote:
> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
>> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>>
>> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
>>
>
> FWIW, I tested R2N briefly which has ar9223 instead and it works in AP
> with simple PSK
> config.
>
> I'll also test R52N when I receive it and have time in the coming weeks.
> Let me know if you are interested in a particular config.
Luis
Following up my previous e-mail, I also tested r52n
briefly. Again, with simple PSK it seems to be working
fine. Here is the dmesg you might be interested in :
ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 EEPROM: 12
ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 EEPROM: 12
ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 EEPROM: 12
ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 EEPROM: 12
ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 EEPROM: 12
ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'ath9k_rate_control'
Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::radio
Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::assoc
Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::tx
Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::rx
phy0: Atheros AR9280 MAC/BB Rev:2 AR5133 RF Rev:d0: mem=0xc50e0000, irq=18
-- sinan
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* [ath9k-devel] r52n - ar9220 miniPCi 11n
2009-07-27 16:43 ` Sinan Akman
@ 2009-07-27 18:42 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Luis R. Rodriguez @ 2009-07-27 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ath9k-devel
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Sinan Akman<sinan@writeme.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sinan Akman wrote:
>>
>> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>>
>>> Curious if anyone has tested ath9k with this card or any ar9220s. It
>>> should have our ar9280 MAC.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.mikrotik-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p513_MikroTik-RouterBoard-R52N.html
>>
>> ?FWIW, I tested R2N briefly which has ar9223 instead and it works in AP
>> with simple PSK
>> config.
>>
>> ?I'll also test R52N when I receive it and have time in the coming weeks.
>> Let me know if you are interested in a particular config.
>
> ?Luis
>
> ?Following up my previous e-mail, I also tested r52n
> briefly. Again, with simple PSK it seems to be working
> fine. Here is the dmesg you might be interested in :
>
> ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 ?EEPROM: 12
> ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
> ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
> ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 ?EEPROM: 12
> ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
> ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
> ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 ?EEPROM: 12
> ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
> ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
> ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 ?EEPROM: 12
> ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
> ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
> ath9k: ini VAL: 5a508000 ?EEPROM: 12
> ath9k: PWDCLKIND: 0
> ath9k: final ini VAL: 5a108000
> phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'ath9k_rate_control'
> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::radio
> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::assoc
> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::tx
> Registered led device: ath9k-phy0::rx
> phy0: Atheros AR9280 MAC/BB Rev:2 AR5133 RF Rev:d0: mem=0xc50e0000, irq=18
Nice, I'd like to see the entire dmesg if you don't mind.
Luis
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