From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] perf: introduce raw_type attribute to specify the type of a raw sample
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:23:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1274347413.5605.13636.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiniEWKJIrbTSZQ0jBXps75WVQbvGSXVyUVttJ7P@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 10:10 +0200, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> I still don't understand why you need all of this to encode IBS.
> I still believe that with attr.config there is plenty of bits to choose
> from. I do understand the need for PERF_SAMPLE_RAW. I think
> there is no other way.
>
> You simply need to pick an encoding to mark the config as IBS. You
> need two bits for this: 00 regular counters, 01 IBS Fetch, 10 IBS op.
> Regular counters use 43 bits, IBS fetch uses 58, IBS op uses 52.
> So you could use bits 62-63 for instance. You don't need to encode
> the sampling period in attr.config for either IBS. You can use
> attr.sample_period, so you free up 16 bits.
>
> I understand that IBS may evolve and thus may use more bits. But
> you still have at least 16 bits of margin.
>
> Users and tools would rely on an library to provide the event encoding.
> No need to come up with some raw hex number on the cmdline.
No need for any of that afaict, how about:
For Instruction-Fetch:
0:15 sample-period (r/w)
16:31 cnt (r/w)
32:47 latency (r/w)
48 enable (r/w)
49 valid (r/w)
50:56 (ro)
57 randomized (r/w)
For Instruction-Execution:
0:15 sample-period (r/w)
17 enable (r/w)
18 valid (r/w)
So if we add perf_event_attr::latency (can also be used for
PEBS-load-latency, can Sparc/PowerPC/ARM/SH use this too?), we can
encode these IBS things as:
0x87 Instruction Fetch Stall -- Ins-Fetch
0xC0 Retired Instructions -- Ins-Exec
When we set perf_event_attr::precise > 0
The Ins-Exec will have to re-construct the actual event->count by adding
sample-period on each interrupt, as it seems we lack an actual counter
in hardware.
Furthermore, these counters will have to deal with sample-period > 2^16
by 'ignoring' interrupts until we get ->period_left down to 0.
The extra data could possibly be exposed through attaching non-sampling
group events and using SAMPLE_READ, like L1-misses, although
reconstructing the count from just one bit seems 'interesting'.
The IbsFetchLinAd/IbsOpRip would go straight into PERF_SAMPLE_IP by
replacing pt_regs->ip I guess.
IbsDcLinAd goes into PERF_SAMPLE_ADDR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-20 9:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 21:20 [PATCH 0/7] perf: implement AMD IBS (v2) Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 1/7] perf: introduce raw_type attribute to specify the type of a raw sample Robert Richter
2010-05-19 22:02 ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-20 6:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 23:06 ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 22:46 ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 8:10 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 9:23 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-05-20 9:42 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 12:13 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 15:22 ` Robert Richter
2012-11-23 12:00 ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 14:08 ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 16:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 17:07 ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 17:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 13:58 ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 14:14 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 14:30 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 15:48 ` Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 2/7] perf, x86: introduce bit range for special pmu events Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 3/7] perf, x86: modify some code to allow the introduction of ibs events Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 4/7] perf, x86: implement IBS feature detection Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 5/7] perf, x86: setup NMI handler for IBS Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 6/7] perf, x86: implement AMD IBS event configuration Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 7/7] perf, x86: implement the ibs interrupt handler Robert Richter
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