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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] break out page allocation warning code
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:04:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304035495.2971.169.camel@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304034500.2971.160.camel@work-vm>

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 16:48 -0700, john stultz wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 15:48 -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, john stultz wrote:
> > 
> > > So thinking further, this can be simplified by adding the seqlock first,
> > > and then retaining the task_locking only in the set_task_comm path until
> > > all comm accessors are converted to using get_task_comm.
> > > 
> > 
> > On second thought, I think it would be better to just retain using a 
> > spinlock but instead of using alloc_lock, introduce a new spinlock to 
> > task_struct for the sole purpose of protecting comm.
> > 
> > And, instead, of using get_task_comm() to write into a preallocated 
> > buffer, I think it would be easier in the vast majority of cases that 
> > you'll need to convert to just provide task_comm_lock(p) and 
> > task_comm_unlock(p) so that p->comm can be dereferenced safely.  

Ok.. trying to find a middle ground here by replying to my own
concerns. :)

> So my concern with this is that it means one more lock that could be
> mis-nested. By keeping the locking isolated to the get/set_task_comm, we
> can be sure that won't happen. 
> 
> Also tracking new current->comm references will be easier if we just
> don't allow new ones. Validating that all the comm references are
> correctly locked becomes more difficult if we need locking at each use
> site.

So maybe we still ban current->comm access and instead have a
lightweight get_comm_locked() accessor or something that. Then we can
add debugging options to validate that the lock is properly held
internally.

> Further, since I'm not convinced that we never reference current->comm
> from irq context, if we go with spinlocks, we're going to have to
> disable irqs in the read path as well. seqlocks were nice for that
> aspect.

rwlocks can resolve this concern.


Any other thoughts?

-john


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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] break out page allocation warning code
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:04:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304035495.2971.169.camel@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304034500.2971.160.camel@work-vm>

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 16:48 -0700, john stultz wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 15:48 -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, john stultz wrote:
> > 
> > > So thinking further, this can be simplified by adding the seqlock first,
> > > and then retaining the task_locking only in the set_task_comm path until
> > > all comm accessors are converted to using get_task_comm.
> > > 
> > 
> > On second thought, I think it would be better to just retain using a 
> > spinlock but instead of using alloc_lock, introduce a new spinlock to 
> > task_struct for the sole purpose of protecting comm.
> > 
> > And, instead, of using get_task_comm() to write into a preallocated 
> > buffer, I think it would be easier in the vast majority of cases that 
> > you'll need to convert to just provide task_comm_lock(p) and 
> > task_comm_unlock(p) so that p->comm can be dereferenced safely.  

Ok.. trying to find a middle ground here by replying to my own
concerns. :)

> So my concern with this is that it means one more lock that could be
> mis-nested. By keeping the locking isolated to the get/set_task_comm, we
> can be sure that won't happen. 
> 
> Also tracking new current->comm references will be easier if we just
> don't allow new ones. Validating that all the comm references are
> correctly locked becomes more difficult if we need locking at each use
> site.

So maybe we still ban current->comm access and instead have a
lightweight get_comm_locked() accessor or something that. Then we can
add debugging options to validate that the lock is properly held
internally.

> Further, since I'm not convinced that we never reference current->comm
> from irq context, if we go with spinlocks, we're going to have to
> disable irqs in the read path as well. seqlocks were nice for that
> aspect.

rwlocks can resolve this concern.


Any other thoughts?

-john

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-29  0:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-15 17:04 [PATCH 1/2] break out page allocation warning code Dave Hansen
2011-04-15 17:04 ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-15 17:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] print vmalloc() state after allocation failures Dave Hansen
2011-04-15 17:04   ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-15 17:20   ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-04-15 17:20     ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-04-15 17:44     ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-15 17:44       ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-17  0:03       ` David Rientjes
2011-04-17  0:03         ` David Rientjes
2011-04-18 15:21         ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-18 15:21           ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-17  0:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] break out page allocation warning code David Rientjes
2011-04-17  0:02   ` David Rientjes
2011-04-18 15:10   ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-18 15:10     ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-18 20:25     ` David Rientjes
2011-04-18 20:25       ` David Rientjes
2011-04-18 20:57       ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-18 20:57         ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-19 21:23         ` David Rientjes
2011-04-19 21:23           ` David Rientjes
2011-04-18 21:03       ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-18 21:03         ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-18 21:22       ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-18 21:22         ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-19  0:44         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-19  0:44           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-19 21:21           ` David Rientjes
2011-04-19 21:21             ` David Rientjes
2011-04-20  0:39             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20  0:39               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20 20:24               ` David Rientjes
2011-04-20 20:24                 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-20 20:34                 ` john stultz
2011-04-20 20:34                   ` john stultz
2011-04-21  1:29                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-21  1:29                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-25  4:21                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-25  4:21                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-26 19:27                     ` john stultz
2011-04-26 19:27                       ` john stultz
2011-04-27 23:51                       ` David Rientjes
2011-04-27 23:51                         ` David Rientjes
2011-04-28  0:32                         ` john stultz
2011-04-28  0:32                           ` john stultz
2011-04-28  1:29                           ` john stultz
2011-04-28  1:29                             ` john stultz
2011-04-28 22:48                             ` David Rientjes
2011-04-28 22:48                               ` David Rientjes
2011-04-28 23:48                               ` john stultz
2011-04-28 23:48                                 ` john stultz
2011-04-29  0:04                                 ` john stultz [this message]
2011-04-29  0:04                                   ` john stultz
2011-04-26 21:25                     ` john stultz
2011-04-26 21:25                       ` john stultz
2011-04-28  3:05                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-28  3:05                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20  1:41             ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-20  1:41               ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-20  1:50               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20  1:50                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20  2:19                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20  2:19                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-20  2:46                   ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-20  2:46                     ` Dave Hansen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-19 16:21 Dave Hansen
2011-04-19 16:21 ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-08 20:22 Dave Hansen
2011-04-08 20:22 ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-08 20:37 ` David Rientjes
2011-04-08 20:37   ` David Rientjes
2011-04-08 20:43   ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-08 20:43     ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-08 20:54 ` Michał Nazarewicz
2011-04-08 21:02   ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-08 21:02     ` Dave Hansen
2011-04-11 10:20     ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-04-11 10:20       ` Michal Nazarewicz

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