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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages from kswapd
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:57:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1311339432.27400.36.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311265730-5324-9-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:28 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Assuming that flusher threads will always write back dirty pages promptly
> then it is always faster for reclaimers to wait for flushers. This patch
> prevents kswapd writing back any filesystem pages. 

That is a somewhat sort changelog for such a big assumption ;-)

I think it can use a few extra words to explain the need to clean pages
from @zone vs writeback picks whatever fits best on disk and how that
works out wrt the assumption.

What requirements does this place on writeback and how does it meet
them.

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages from kswapd
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:57:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1311339432.27400.36.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311265730-5324-9-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:28 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Assuming that flusher threads will always write back dirty pages promptly
> then it is always faster for reclaimers to wait for flushers. This patch
> prevents kswapd writing back any filesystem pages. 

That is a somewhat sort changelog for such a big assumption ;-)

I think it can use a few extra words to explain the need to clean pages
from @zone vs writeback picks whatever fits best on disk and how that
works out wrt the assumption.

What requirements does this place on writeback and how does it meet
them.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages from kswapd
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:57:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1311339432.27400.36.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311265730-5324-9-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:28 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Assuming that flusher threads will always write back dirty pages promptly
> then it is always faster for reclaimers to wait for flushers. This patch
> prevents kswapd writing back any filesystem pages. 

That is a somewhat sort changelog for such a big assumption ;-)

I think it can use a few extra words to explain the need to clean pages
from @zone vs writeback picks whatever fits best on disk and how that
works out wrt the assumption.

What requirements does this place on writeback and how does it meet
them.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-22 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-21 16:28 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v2 Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 15:06   ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-31 15:06     ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-31 15:06     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-02 11:21     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-02 11:21       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-02 11:21       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 2/8] xfs: Warn if direct reclaim tries to writeback pages Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-24 11:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-24 11:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-24 11:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25  8:19     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-25  8:19       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-25  8:19       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 3/8] ext4: " Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 10:58   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 10:58     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 10:58     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:06       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:06       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:44       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:44         ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:44         ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 14:00         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 14:00           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 14:00           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 14:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-03 14:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-03 14:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-03 14:35           ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 14:35             ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 14:35             ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 4/8] btrfs: " Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 11:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:10     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:10     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:45     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:45       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:45       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in kswapd except in high priority Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 15:11   ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-31 15:11     ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-31 15:11     ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm: vmscan: Throttle reclaim if encountering too many dirty pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 15:17   ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-31 15:17     ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-31 15:17     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-03 11:19   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:19     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:19     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:56     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:56       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:56       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm: vmscan: Immediately reclaim end-of-LRU dirty pages when writeback completes Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 12:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 12:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 12:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 13:23     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 13:23       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 13:23       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 15:24       ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-31 15:24         ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-31 15:24         ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-02 11:25         ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-02 11:25           ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-02 11:25           ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 11:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:26     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:26     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:57     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:57       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:57       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages from kswapd Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 12:57   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-07-22 12:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 12:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 13:31     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 13:31       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 13:31       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 11:37   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:37     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:37     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:58     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:58       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 13:58       ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-26 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v2 Dave Chinner
2011-07-26 11:20   ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-26 11:20   ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-27  4:32 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-27  4:32   ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-27  4:32   ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-27  7:37   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-27  7:37     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-27  7:37     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-27 16:18 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-27 16:18   ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-27 16:18   ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-28 11:38   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-28 11:38     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-28 11:38     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-29  9:48     ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-29  9:48       ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-29  9:48       ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-29  9:50       ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-29  9:50         ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-29  9:50         ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-29 13:41         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-29 13:41           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-29 13:41           ` Andrew Lutomirski

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