From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: remove unneeded preempt_disable
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:56:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1314312987.26922.13.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108251413130.27407@router.home>
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 14:19 -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > Also, I thought this_cpu thing's were at best locally atomic. If you
> > make them full blown atomic ops then even __this_cpu ops will have to be
> > full atomic ops, otherwise:
> >
> >
> > CPU0 CPU(1)
> >
> > this_cpu_inc(&foo); preempt_disable();
> > __this_cpu_inc(&foo);
> > preempt_enable();
> >
> > might step on each other's toes.
>
> They would both have their own instance of "foo". per cpu atomicity is
> only one requirement of this_cpu_ops. The other is the ability to relocate
> accesses relative to the current per cpu area.
Ah, but not if the this_cpu_inc() thing ends up being more than a single
instruction, then you have preemption/migration windows. Only when LL/SC
can deal with SC having a different EA from the LL and supports a big
enough offset could this possibly work.
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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: remove unneeded preempt_disable
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:56:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1314312987.26922.13.camel@twins> (raw)
Message-ID: <20110825225627.F5FIm_6xMH520m6cwLffAdoEr_mv3BG-vRtsP2Std5E@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108251413130.27407@router.home>
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 14:19 -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > Also, I thought this_cpu thing's were at best locally atomic. If you
> > make them full blown atomic ops then even __this_cpu ops will have to be
> > full atomic ops, otherwise:
> >
> >
> > CPU0 CPU(1)
> >
> > this_cpu_inc(&foo); preempt_disable();
> > __this_cpu_inc(&foo);
> > preempt_enable();
> >
> > might step on each other's toes.
>
> They would both have their own instance of "foo". per cpu atomicity is
> only one requirement of this_cpu_ops. The other is the ability to relocate
> accesses relative to the current per cpu area.
Ah, but not if the this_cpu_inc() thing ends up being more than a single
instruction, then you have preemption/migration windows. Only when LL/SC
can deal with SC having a different EA from the LL and supports a big
enough offset could this possibly work.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-25 22:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-18 6:50 [PATCH] memcg: remove unneeded preempt_disable Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 6:50 ` Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 6:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 6:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 9:38 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-18 9:38 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-18 14:26 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-08-18 14:41 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-18 14:41 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-18 18:27 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-08-18 21:40 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 21:40 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-19 0:00 ` Greg Thelen
2011-08-19 0:00 ` Greg Thelen
2011-08-25 14:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 14:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 15:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 15:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 16:20 ` James Bottomley
2011-08-25 16:20 ` James Bottomley
2011-08-25 16:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 16:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 16:34 ` James Bottomley
2011-08-25 16:34 ` James Bottomley
2011-08-25 17:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 17:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 18:34 ` James Bottomley
2011-08-25 18:34 ` James Bottomley
2011-08-25 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 18:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 18:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 18:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 18:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 19:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 19:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 19:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 19:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-08-25 22:56 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-08-25 22:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 19:29 ` James Bottomley
2011-08-25 19:29 ` James Bottomley
2011-08-25 23:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 23:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 18:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-25 18:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 9:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-06 9:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-06 10:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-06 10:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-06 10:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-06 10:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-06 10:45 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-06 10:45 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-06 18:04 ` Greg Thelen
2011-09-06 18:04 ` Greg Thelen
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