Latest head causes challanges

Latest head causes challanges

[Andreas Müller]

Hi

I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
what might caused this?

Andreas

Re: Latest head causes challanges

[Phil Blundell]

On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
> what might caused this?

406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?

p.

Re: [OE-core] Latest head causes challanges

[Phil Blundell]

On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
> what might caused this?

406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?

p.

Re: Latest head causes challanges

[Andreas Müller]

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
>> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
>> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
>> what might caused this?
>
> 406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?
>
> p.
>
Wow - I thought we are close to release...

Andreas

Re: [OE-core] Latest head causes challanges

[Andreas Müller]

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
>> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
>> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
>> what might caused this?
>
> 406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?
>
> p.
>
Wow - I thought we are close to release...

Andreas

Re: Latest head causes challanges

[Phil Blundell]

On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:24 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> >> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
> >> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
> >> what might caused this?
> >
> > 406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?
> >
> > p.
> >
> Wow - I thought we are close to release...

Not that I'm any expert, but I think the release is coming from its own
branch (which doesn't happen to contain that commit) and not from
master.

p.

Re: [OE-core] Latest head causes challanges

[Phil Blundell]

On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:24 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> >> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
> >> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
> >> what might caused this?
> >
> > 406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?
> >
> > p.
> >
> Wow - I thought we are close to release...

Not that I'm any expert, but I think the release is coming from its own
branch (which doesn't happen to contain that commit) and not from
master.

p.

Re: [oe] Latest head causes challanges

[Paul Eggleton]

On Wednesday 24 October 2012 16:24:08 Andreas Müller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> >> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
> >> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
> >> what might caused this?
> > 
> > 406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?
> > 
> > p.
> 
> Wow - I thought we are close to release...

The master branch has already moved past release - danny is the release branch 
and does not have this patch.

Cheers,
Paul

-- 

Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: [OE-core] Latest head causes challanges

[Paul Eggleton]

On Wednesday 24 October 2012 16:24:08 Andreas Müller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> >> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
> >> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
> >> what might caused this?
> > 
> > 406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?
> > 
> > p.
> 
> Wow - I thought we are close to release...

The master branch has already moved past release - danny is the release branch 
and does not have this patch.

Cheers,
Paul

-- 

Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: [oe] Latest head causes challanges

[Andreas Müller]

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Paul Eggleton
<paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 October 2012 16:24:08 Andreas Müller wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
>> >> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
>> >> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
>> >> what might caused this?
>> >
>> > 406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?
>> >
>> > p.
>>
>> Wow - I thought we are close to release...
>
> The master branch has already moved past release - danny is the release branch
> and does not have this patch.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
To me this is a log off and go home. Since when do we care for FHS? I
thought everything is on it's way to /lib... And I thought on master
branch I am safe from strange changes these days...

Andreas

Re: [oe] Latest head causes challanges

[Richard Purdie]

On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:49 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Paul Eggleton
> <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 24 October 2012 16:24:08 Andreas Müller wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:19 +0200, Andreas Müller wrote:
> >> >> I updated my layers this morning. Since that I have huge fallout:
> >> >> Poking around I found /usr/libexec is missing on my machine. Any idea
> >> >> what might caused this?
> >> >
> >> > 406bd38b4232f9f399ef5ffe0b4fac72ed605a23?
> >> >
> >> > p.
> >>
> >> Wow - I thought we are close to release...
> >
> > The master branch has already moved past release - danny is the release branch
> > and does not have this patch.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
> >
> To me this is a log off and go home. Since when do we care for FHS? I
> thought everything is on it's way to /lib... And I thought on master
> branch I am safe from strange changes these days...

Set:

libexecdir = "${exec_prefix}/libexec"

and you will get the old behaviour. This change did not go into the
release branch. If you want to track a stable release, please use the
release branch. The master branch has opened up for further development
now. 

With things like filesystem layout, we've always aimed to allow it to be
configured as the end user requires and nothing has changed. We don't
have to follow FSH although in some cases its probably useful to, or at
least ensure you can follow it (which you couldn't previously). You can
pick whichever layout you want and we've taken steps to ensure both
layouts work.

Part of the reason for doing this is specifically due to the fact that
everything is on its way to /lib/. If you follow that through, it makes
sense to split from /libexec/ to /lib/${PN} and separate the packages.
If we need to do this, its better to test our code can support that kind
of layout now, avoiding pain in the future.

So I'm sorry this change is disruptive for you, I think there are ways
you can avoid the problem, not least by setting the variable as above
and avoiding the change.

Cheers,

Richard

Re: [oe] Latest head causes challanges

[Burton, Ross]

On 24 October 2012 15:49, Andreas Müller <schnitzeltony@googlemail.com> wrote:
> To me this is a log off and go home. Since when do we care for FHS? I
> thought everything is on it's way to /lib... And I thought on master
> branch I am safe from strange changes these days...

I'm curious as to why it's such a drastic change for you.  Packages
that Do The Right Thing will just work when libexecdir is changed, and
by definition they are binaries that you won't be running yourself.
So what's the problem?

Ross

Re: [oe] Latest head causes challanges

[Andreas Müller]

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com> wrote:
> On 24 October 2012 15:49, Andreas Müller <schnitzeltony@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> To me this is a log off and go home. Since when do we care for FHS? I
>> thought everything is on it's way to /lib... And I thought on master
>> branch I am safe from strange changes these days...
>
> I'm curious as to why it's such a drastic change for you.  Packages
> that Do The Right Thing will just work when libexecdir is changed, and
> by definition they are binaries that you won't be running yourself.
> So what's the problem?
>
> Ross
My problems were:

* I thought master branch was the one to go into stable release and
did not expect changes like this when I updated. Maybe I missed some
announcement for danny.
* had to stop working because build from scratch was required - hope
tomorrow everything is fine again.

Andreas