From: peterz@infradead.org (Peter Zijlstra)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] sched: pack small tasks
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:46:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1364301998.5053.17.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1363955155-18382-4-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 13:25 +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> During the creation of sched_domain, we define a pack buddy CPU for
> each CPU
> when one is available. We want to pack at all levels where a group of
> CPU can
> be power gated independently from others.
> On a system that can't power gate a group of CPUs independently, the
> flag is
> set at all sched_domain level and the buddy is set to -1. This is the
> default
> behavior.
> On a dual clusters / dual cores system which can power gate each core
> and
> cluster independently, the buddy configuration will be :
>
> | Cluster 0 | Cluster 1 |
> | CPU0 | CPU1 | CPU2 | CPU3 |
> -----------------------------------
> buddy | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU2 |
I suppose this is adequate for the 'small' systems you currently have;
but given that Samsung is already bragging with its 'octo'-core Exynos
5 (4+4 big-little thing) does this solution scale?
Isn't this basically related to picking the NO_HZ cpu; if the system
isn't fully symmetric with its power gates you want the NO_HZ cpu to be
the 'special' cpu. If it is symmetric we really don't care which core
is left 'running' and we can even select a new pack cpu from the idle
cores once the old one is fully utilized.
Re-using (or integrating) with NO_HZ has the dual advantage that you'll
make NO_HZ do the right thing for big-little (you typically want a
little core to be the one staying 'awake' and once someone makes NO_HZ
scale this all gets to scale along with it.
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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] sched: pack small tasks
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:46:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1364301998.5053.17.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1363955155-18382-4-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 13:25 +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> During the creation of sched_domain, we define a pack buddy CPU for
> each CPU
> when one is available. We want to pack at all levels where a group of
> CPU can
> be power gated independently from others.
> On a system that can't power gate a group of CPUs independently, the
> flag is
> set at all sched_domain level and the buddy is set to -1. This is the
> default
> behavior.
> On a dual clusters / dual cores system which can power gate each core
> and
> cluster independently, the buddy configuration will be :
>
> | Cluster 0 | Cluster 1 |
> | CPU0 | CPU1 | CPU2 | CPU3 |
> -----------------------------------
> buddy | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU2 |
I suppose this is adequate for the 'small' systems you currently have;
but given that Samsung is already bragging with its 'octo'-core Exynos
5 (4+4 big-little thing) does this solution scale?
Isn't this basically related to picking the NO_HZ cpu; if the system
isn't fully symmetric with its power gates you want the NO_HZ cpu to be
the 'special' cpu. If it is symmetric we really don't care which core
is left 'running' and we can even select a new pack cpu from the idle
cores once the old one is fully utilized.
Re-using (or integrating) with NO_HZ has the dual advantage that you'll
make NO_HZ do the right thing for big-little (you typically want a
little core to be the one staying 'awake' and once someone makes NO_HZ
scale this all gets to scale along with it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-26 12:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-22 12:25 [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] sched: packing small tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/6] Revert "sched: Introduce temporary FAIR_GROUP_SCHED dependency for load-tracking" Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/6] sched: add a new SD_SHARE_POWERDOMAIN flag for sched_domain Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] sched: pack small tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 12:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 10:21 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-27 10:21 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-27 11:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 11:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 11:34 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 11:34 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 10:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 10:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 10:32 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-26 10:32 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-26 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 13:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 4:33 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-27 4:33 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-27 4:48 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 4:48 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 8:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 8:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-03-26 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 13:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 15:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-03-26 15:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-03-27 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 8:54 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 8:54 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 11:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 16:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 17:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-27 17:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-27 17:37 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 17:37 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 17:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 18:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 15:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-27 15:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/6] sched: secure access to other CPU statistics Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 13:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] sched: pack the idle load balance Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 14:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 14:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 15:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 15:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 4:56 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 4:56 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 8:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 8:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 8:47 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 8:47 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 10:30 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 10:30 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 13:32 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 13:32 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-05 11:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-05 11:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-22 5:45 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-22 5:45 ` Preeti U Murthy
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtCCCifC=c+xjjnAH_HSqkR80PiQoddQKXPHuZwZawbvcA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-23 2:23 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-23 2:23 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-23 4:57 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-23 4:57 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-23 15:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-04-23 15:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-04-26 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-23 4:36 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-23 4:36 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] ARM: sched: clear SD_SHARE_POWERDOMAIN Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-23 11:55 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] sched: packing small tasks Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-23 11:55 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-25 9:58 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-25 9:58 ` Vincent Guittot
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