* [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? @ 2013-06-13 10:59 Barros Pena, Belen 2013-06-13 11:23 ` Bill Traynor 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Barros Pena, Belen @ 2013-06-13 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rifenbark, Scott M, Paul Eggleton, Damian, Alexandru, Dragomir, CalinX L Cc: webhob@yoctoproject.org I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation for the 1.5 release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe something lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be enough. Let me know what you think. Belén --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 10:59 [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? Barros Pena, Belen @ 2013-06-13 11:23 ` Bill Traynor 2013-06-13 11:37 ` Richard Purdie 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Bill Traynor @ 2013-06-13 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Barros Pena, Belen Cc: Paul Eggleton, Rifenbark, Scott M, webhob@yoctoproject.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1334 bytes --] On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen < belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: > I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation for the 1.5 > release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe something > lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be enough. > > Let me know what you think. > Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should be part of the BitBake manual. > > Belén > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Intel Corporation (UK) Limited > Registered No. 1134945 (England) > Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ > VAT No: 860 2173 47 > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for > the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution > by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > _______________________________________________ > webhob mailing list > webhob@yoctoproject.org > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/webhob > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1982 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 11:23 ` Bill Traynor @ 2013-06-13 11:37 ` Richard Purdie 2013-06-13 12:11 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2013-06-13 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bill Traynor; +Cc: Paul Eggleton, Rifenbark, Scott M, webhob@yoctoproject.org On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen > <belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: > I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation > for the 1.5 > release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe > something > lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be > enough. > > Let me know what you think. > > Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches > are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob > is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the > BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should > be part of the BitBake manual. I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, what the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals and/or on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake manual. Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 11:37 ` Richard Purdie @ 2013-06-13 12:11 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 2013-06-13 13:28 ` Barros Pena, Belen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-06-13 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Purdie, Bill Traynor; +Cc: Paul Eggleton, webhob@yoctoproject.org Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called "Image Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop images, states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. It references our Hob page on the website. The section also highlights and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think what you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. Scott >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org] >Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM >To: Bill Traynor >Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; >webhob@yoctoproject.org >Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? > >On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation >> for the 1.5 >> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe >> something >> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be >> enough. >> >> Let me know what you think. >> >> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches >> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob >> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the >> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should >> be part of the BitBake manual. > >I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some >basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, what >the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future >plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals and/or >on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to >extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake manual. > >Cheers, > >Richard > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 12:11 ` Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-06-13 13:28 ` Barros Pena, Belen 2013-06-13 13:44 ` Bill Traynor 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Barros Pena, Belen @ 2013-06-13 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rifenbark, Scott M, Richard Purdie, Bill Traynor Cc: Paul Eggleton, webhob@yoctoproject.org On 13/06/2013 13:11, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> wrote: >Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called "Image >Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop images, >states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. >It references our Hob page on the website. The section also highlights >and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think what >you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. I might be reading this wrong (sorry if that's the case), but Hob and Web Hob are different tools. Hob is a building tool and it's a native application. The first version of Web Hob, which is what we are referring to here, is more a build analysis tool, and it's a web application (it runs on your browser). So it looks like we'll need: * A new section in the YP manuals (not sure which one of them) for Web Hob * A new wiki page for Web Hob * A new webpage on the website for Web hob According to Richard's list, the above should cover: * basic information about the fact the UI exists, * how to start it, * what the capabilities are, * the limitations * some indication of future plans (high level). If we add any developer oriented docs, those would go in the bitbake manual. Would people agree with this? Belen > >Scott > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org] >>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM >>To: Bill Traynor >>Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; >>webhob@yoctoproject.org >>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >> >>On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >>> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >>> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation >>> for the 1.5 >>> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe >>> something >>> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be >>> enough. >>> >>> Let me know what you think. >>> >>> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches >>> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob >>> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the >>> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should >>> be part of the BitBake manual. >> >>I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some >>basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, what >>the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future >>plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals and/or >>on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to >>extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake manual. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Richard >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 13:28 ` Barros Pena, Belen @ 2013-06-13 13:44 ` Bill Traynor 2013-06-13 13:55 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 2013-06-17 6:18 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Bill Traynor @ 2013-06-13 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Barros Pena, Belen Cc: Paul Eggleton, Rifenbark, Scott M, webhob@yoctoproject.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3764 bytes --] On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Barros Pena, Belen < belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: > On 13/06/2013 13:11, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> > wrote: > > >Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called "Image > >Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop images, > >states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. > >It references our Hob page on the website. The section also highlights > >and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think what > >you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. > > I might be reading this wrong (sorry if that's the case), but Hob and Web > Hob are different tools. Hob is a building tool and it's a native > application. The first version of Web Hob, which is what we are referring > to here, is more a build analysis tool, and it's a web application (it > runs on your browser). So it looks like we'll need: > > * A new section in the YP manuals (not sure which one of them) for Web Hob > * A new wiki page for Web Hob > * A new webpage on the website for Web hob > > According to Richard's list, the above should cover: > > * basic information about the fact the UI exists, > * how to start it, > * what the capabilities are, > * the limitations > * some indication of future plans (high level). > > If we add any developer oriented docs, those would go in the bitbake > manual. > > Would people agree with this? > I would agree. > > > Belen > > > > >Scott > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org] > >>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM > >>To: Bill Traynor > >>Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; > >>webhob@yoctoproject.org > >>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? > >> > >>On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: > >>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen > >>> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: > >>> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation > >>> for the 1.5 > >>> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe > >>> something > >>> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be > >>> enough. > >>> > >>> Let me know what you think. > >>> > >>> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches > >>> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob > >>> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the > >>> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should > >>> be part of the BitBake manual. > >> > >>I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some > >>basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, what > >>the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future > >>plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals and/or > >>on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to > >>extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake manual. > >> > >>Cheers, > >> > >>Richard > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Intel Corporation (UK) Limited > Registered No. 1134945 (England) > Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ > VAT No: 860 2173 47 > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for > the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution > by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5200 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 13:44 ` Bill Traynor @ 2013-06-13 13:55 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 2013-06-13 14:06 ` Barros Pena, Belen 2013-06-17 6:18 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-06-13 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bill Traynor, Barros Pena, Belen; +Cc: Paul Eggleton, webhob@yoctoproject.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4084 bytes --] Ahh ... okay. My mistake on that. I was thinking plain, old Hob. Scott From: Bill Traynor [mailto:btraynor@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:44 AM To: Barros Pena, Belen Cc: Rifenbark, Scott M; Richard Purdie; Paul Eggleton; webhob@yoctoproject.org Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Barros Pena, Belen <belen.barros.pena@intel.com<mailto:belen.barros.pena@intel.com>> wrote: On 13/06/2013 13:11, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com<mailto:scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com>> wrote: >Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called "Image >Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop images, >states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. >It references our Hob page on the website. The section also highlights >and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think what >you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. I might be reading this wrong (sorry if that's the case), but Hob and Web Hob are different tools. Hob is a building tool and it's a native application. The first version of Web Hob, which is what we are referring to here, is more a build analysis tool, and it's a web application (it runs on your browser). So it looks like we'll need: * A new section in the YP manuals (not sure which one of them) for Web Hob * A new wiki page for Web Hob * A new webpage on the website for Web hob According to Richard's list, the above should cover: * basic information about the fact the UI exists, * how to start it, * what the capabilities are, * the limitations * some indication of future plans (high level). If we add any developer oriented docs, those would go in the bitbake manual. Would people agree with this? I would agree. Belen > >Scott > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>] >>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM >>To: Bill Traynor >>Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; >>webhob@yoctoproject.org<mailto:webhob@yoctoproject.org> >>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >> >>On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >>> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com<mailto:belen.barros.pena@intel.com>> wrote: >>> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation >>> for the 1.5 >>> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe >>> something >>> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be >>> enough. >>> >>> Let me know what you think. >>> >>> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches >>> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob >>> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the >>> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should >>> be part of the BitBake manual. >> >>I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some >>basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, what >>the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future >>plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals and/or >>on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to >>extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake manual. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Richard >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 8887 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 13:55 ` Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-06-13 14:06 ` Barros Pena, Belen 2013-06-13 14:07 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Barros Pena, Belen @ 2013-06-13 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rifenbark, Scott M; +Cc: webhob@yoctoproject.org On 13/06/2013 14:55, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> wrote: >Ahh Š okay. My mistake on that. I was thinking plain, old Hob. No worries: I didn't give you that much to go by, to be honest. My bad. Should I open an issue in Bugzilla for the Web Hob documentation, or would you rather deal with this in some other way? Thanks!! Belen > >Scott > >From: Bill Traynor [mailto:btraynor@gmail.com] > >Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:44 AM >To: Barros Pena, Belen >Cc: Rifenbark, Scott M; Richard Purdie; Paul Eggleton; >webhob@yoctoproject.org >Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? > > > > > >On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Barros Pena, Belen ><belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >On 13/06/2013 13:11, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> >wrote: > >>Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called "Image >>Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop images, >>states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. >>It references our Hob page on the website. The section also highlights >>and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think what >>you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. > >I might be reading this wrong (sorry if that's the case), but Hob and Web >Hob are different tools. Hob is a building tool and it's a native >application. The first version of Web Hob, which is what we are referring >to here, is more a build analysis tool, and it's a web application (it >runs on your browser). So it looks like we'll need: > >* A new section in the YP manuals (not sure which one of them) for Web Hob >* A new wiki page for Web Hob >* A new webpage on the website for Web hob > >According to Richard's list, the above should cover: > >* basic information about the fact the UI exists, >* how to start it, >* what the capabilities are, >* the limitations >* some indication of future plans (high level). > >If we add any developer oriented docs, those would go in the bitbake >manual. > >Would people agree with this? > > >I would agree. > > > > > > >Belen > >> >>Scott >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org] >>>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM >>>To: Bill Traynor >>>Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; >>>webhob@yoctoproject.org >>>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >>> >>>On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: >>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >>>> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >>>> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation >>>> for the 1.5 >>>> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe >>>> something >>>> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be >>>> enough. >>>> >>>> Let me know what you think. >>>> >>>> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches >>>> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob >>>> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the >>>> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should >>>> be part of the BitBake manual. >>> >>>I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some >>>basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, what >>>the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future >>>plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals and/or >>>on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to >>>extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake manual. >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>Richard >>> >>> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Intel Corporation (UK) Limited >Registered No. 1134945 (England) >Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ >VAT No: 860 2173 47 > >This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for >the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution >by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended >recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 14:06 ` Barros Pena, Belen @ 2013-06-13 14:07 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 2013-06-13 14:12 ` Barros Pena, Belen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-06-13 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Barros Pena, Belen; +Cc: webhob@yoctoproject.org Please open a bug saying we need Web Hob documentation. That way I can track it. Thanks Belen! >-----Original Message----- >From: Barros Pena, Belen >Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:07 AM >To: Rifenbark, Scott M >Cc: webhob@yoctoproject.org >Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? > > >On 13/06/2013 14:55, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> >wrote: > >>Ahh Š okay. My mistake on that. I was thinking plain, old Hob. > >No worries: I didn't give you that much to go by, to be honest. My bad. > >Should I open an issue in Bugzilla for the Web Hob documentation, or >would >you rather deal with this in some other way? > >Thanks!! > >Belen > >> >>Scott >> >>From: Bill Traynor [mailto:btraynor@gmail.com] >> >>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:44 AM >>To: Barros Pena, Belen >>Cc: Rifenbark, Scott M; Richard Purdie; Paul Eggleton; >>webhob@yoctoproject.org >>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >> >> >> >> >> >>On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >><belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >>On 13/06/2013 13:11, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> >>wrote: >> >>>Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called >"Image >>>Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop >images, >>>states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. >>>It references our Hob page on the website. The section also >highlights >>>and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think >what >>>you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. >> >>I might be reading this wrong (sorry if that's the case), but Hob and >Web >>Hob are different tools. Hob is a building tool and it's a native >>application. The first version of Web Hob, which is what we are >referring >>to here, is more a build analysis tool, and it's a web application (it >>runs on your browser). So it looks like we'll need: >> >>* A new section in the YP manuals (not sure which one of them) for Web >Hob >>* A new wiki page for Web Hob >>* A new webpage on the website for Web hob >> >>According to Richard's list, the above should cover: >> >>* basic information about the fact the UI exists, >>* how to start it, >>* what the capabilities are, >>* the limitations >>* some indication of future plans (high level). >> >>If we add any developer oriented docs, those would go in the bitbake >>manual. >> >>Would people agree with this? >> >> >>I would agree. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Belen >> >>> >>>Scott >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org] >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM >>>>To: Bill Traynor >>>>Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; >>>>webhob@yoctoproject.org >>>>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >>>> >>>>On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >>>>> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >>>>> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation >>>>> for the 1.5 >>>>> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe >>>>> something >>>>> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might >be >>>>> enough. >>>>> >>>>> Let me know what you think. >>>>> >>>>> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob >patches >>>>> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that >Webhob >>>>> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the >>>>> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation >should >>>>> be part of the BitBake manual. >>>> >>>>I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some >>>>basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, >what >>>>the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future >>>>plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals >and/or >>>>on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to >>>>extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake >manual. >>>> >>>>Cheers, >>>> >>>>Richard >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Intel Corporation (UK) Limited >>Registered No. 1134945 (England) >>Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ >>VAT No: 860 2173 47 >> >>This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for >>the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution >>by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended >>recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 14:07 ` Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-06-13 14:12 ` Barros Pena, Belen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Barros Pena, Belen @ 2013-06-13 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rifenbark, Scott M; +Cc: webhob@yoctoproject.org On 13/06/2013 15:07, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> wrote: >Please open a bug saying we need Web Hob documentation. That way I can >track it. Done :) https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4730 I've put it against M5 and assigned it to you. Feel free to change that as needed. Cheers Belen > >Thanks Belen! > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Barros Pena, Belen >>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:07 AM >>To: Rifenbark, Scott M >>Cc: webhob@yoctoproject.org >>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >> >> >>On 13/06/2013 14:55, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> >>wrote: >> >>>Ahh Š okay. My mistake on that. I was thinking plain, old Hob. >> >>No worries: I didn't give you that much to go by, to be honest. My bad. >> >>Should I open an issue in Bugzilla for the Web Hob documentation, or >>would >>you rather deal with this in some other way? >> >>Thanks!! >> >>Belen >> >>> >>>Scott >>> >>>From: Bill Traynor [mailto:btraynor@gmail.com] >>> >>>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:44 AM >>>To: Barros Pena, Belen >>>Cc: Rifenbark, Scott M; Richard Purdie; Paul Eggleton; >>>webhob@yoctoproject.org >>>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >>><belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >>>On 13/06/2013 13:11, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called >>"Image >>>>Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop >>images, >>>>states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. >>>>It references our Hob page on the website. The section also >>highlights >>>>and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think >>what >>>>you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. >>> >>>I might be reading this wrong (sorry if that's the case), but Hob and >>Web >>>Hob are different tools. Hob is a building tool and it's a native >>>application. The first version of Web Hob, which is what we are >>referring >>>to here, is more a build analysis tool, and it's a web application (it >>>runs on your browser). So it looks like we'll need: >>> >>>* A new section in the YP manuals (not sure which one of them) for Web >>Hob >>>* A new wiki page for Web Hob >>>* A new webpage on the website for Web hob >>> >>>According to Richard's list, the above should cover: >>> >>>* basic information about the fact the UI exists, >>>* how to start it, >>>* what the capabilities are, >>>* the limitations >>>* some indication of future plans (high level). >>> >>>If we add any developer oriented docs, those would go in the bitbake >>>manual. >>> >>>Would people agree with this? >>> >>> >>>I would agree. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Belen >>> >>>> >>>>Scott >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org] >>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM >>>>>To: Bill Traynor >>>>>Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; >>>>>webhob@yoctoproject.org >>>>>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >>>>>> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >>>>>> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation >>>>>> for the 1.5 >>>>>> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe >>>>>> something >>>>>> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might >>be >>>>>> enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know what you think. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob >>patches >>>>>> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that >>Webhob >>>>>> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the >>>>>> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation >>should >>>>>> be part of the BitBake manual. >>>>> >>>>>I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some >>>>>basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, >>what >>>>>the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future >>>>>plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals >>and/or >>>>>on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to >>>>>extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake >>manual. >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>> >>>>>Richard >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Intel Corporation (UK) Limited >>>Registered No. 1134945 (England) >>>Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ >>>VAT No: 860 2173 47 >>> >>>This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for >>>the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution >>>by others is strictly prohibited. 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* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-13 13:44 ` Bill Traynor 2013-06-13 13:55 ` Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-06-17 6:18 ` Rifenbark, Scott M 2013-07-01 11:24 ` Barros Pena, Belen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-06-17 6:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bill Traynor, Barros Pena, Belen; +Cc: Paul Eggleton, webhob@yoctoproject.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4156 bytes --] Do we have any base information for Web Hob available? I would like to see what is available and start making some progress in this area. Scott From: Bill Traynor [mailto:btraynor@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:44 AM To: Barros Pena, Belen Cc: Rifenbark, Scott M; Richard Purdie; Paul Eggleton; webhob@yoctoproject.org Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Barros Pena, Belen <belen.barros.pena@intel.com<mailto:belen.barros.pena@intel.com>> wrote: On 13/06/2013 13:11, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com<mailto:scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com>> wrote: >Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called "Image >Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop images, >states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. >It references our Hob page on the website. The section also highlights >and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think what >you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. I might be reading this wrong (sorry if that's the case), but Hob and Web Hob are different tools. Hob is a building tool and it's a native application. The first version of Web Hob, which is what we are referring to here, is more a build analysis tool, and it's a web application (it runs on your browser). So it looks like we'll need: * A new section in the YP manuals (not sure which one of them) for Web Hob * A new wiki page for Web Hob * A new webpage on the website for Web hob According to Richard's list, the above should cover: * basic information about the fact the UI exists, * how to start it, * what the capabilities are, * the limitations * some indication of future plans (high level). If we add any developer oriented docs, those would go in the bitbake manual. Would people agree with this? I would agree. Belen > >Scott > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>] >>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM >>To: Bill Traynor >>Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; >>webhob@yoctoproject.org<mailto:webhob@yoctoproject.org> >>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >> >>On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >>> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com<mailto:belen.barros.pena@intel.com>> wrote: >>> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation >>> for the 1.5 >>> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe >>> something >>> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be >>> enough. >>> >>> Let me know what you think. >>> >>> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches >>> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob >>> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the >>> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should >>> be part of the BitBake manual. >> >>I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some >>basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, what >>the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future >>plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals and/or >>on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to >>extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake manual. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Richard >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 8950 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? 2013-06-17 6:18 ` Rifenbark, Scott M @ 2013-07-01 11:24 ` Barros Pena, Belen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Barros Pena, Belen @ 2013-07-01 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rifenbark, Scott M, Bill Traynor; +Cc: Paul Eggleton, webhob@yoctoproject.org Hi Scott, I guess what we have available is in the wiki. Check https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Web_Hob I hope this helps. If you have any questions, let me know. Belen On 17/06/2013 07:17, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> wrote: >Do we have any base information for Web Hob available? I would like to >see what is available and start making some progress in this area. > >Scott > >From: Bill Traynor [mailto:btraynor@gmail.com] > >Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:44 AM >To: Barros Pena, Belen >Cc: Rifenbark, Scott M; Richard Purdie; Paul Eggleton; >webhob@yoctoproject.org >Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? > > > > > >On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Barros Pena, Belen ><belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >On 13/06/2013 13:11, "Rifenbark, Scott M" <scott.m.rifenbark@intel.com> >wrote: > >>Right now we have a small section in the dev-manual that is called "Image >>Development Using Hob". It introduces Hob as a method to develop images, >>states it is UI-driven, and tells how you can set it up and invoke it. >>It references our Hob page on the website. The section also highlights >>and lists the main functions that you can do using Hob. So I think what >>you are saying needs to be in the YP docs already exists. > >I might be reading this wrong (sorry if that's the case), but Hob and Web >Hob are different tools. Hob is a building tool and it's a native >application. The first version of Web Hob, which is what we are referring >to here, is more a build analysis tool, and it's a web application (it >runs on your browser). So it looks like we'll need: > >* A new section in the YP manuals (not sure which one of them) for Web Hob >* A new wiki page for Web Hob >* A new webpage on the website for Web hob > >According to Richard's list, the above should cover: > >* basic information about the fact the UI exists, >* how to start it, >* what the capabilities are, >* the limitations >* some indication of future plans (high level). > >If we add any developer oriented docs, those would go in the bitbake >manual. > >Would people agree with this? > > >I would agree. > > > > > > >Belen > >> >>Scott >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Richard Purdie [mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org] >>>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 AM >>>To: Bill Traynor >>>Cc: Barros Pena, Belen; Paul Eggleton; Rifenbark, Scott M; >>>webhob@yoctoproject.org >>>Subject: Re: [Webhob] Web Hob documentation? >>> >>>On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 07:23 -0400, Bill Traynor wrote: >>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Barros Pena, Belen >>>> <belen.barros.pena@intel.com> wrote: >>>> I am not even sure if need to produce Web Hob documentation >>>> for the 1.5 >>>> release, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. Maybe >>>> something >>>> lightweight, like the Hob manual page on the website, might be >>>> enough. >>>> >>>> Let me know what you think. >>>> >>>> Is Webhob to be a part of BitBake proper? I see that Webhob patches >>>> are hitting the bitbake-devel list. If the answer is yes, that Webhob >>>> is to be a part of BitBake and it's source code live within the >>>> BitBake source tree, then my feeling is that it's documentation should >>>> be part of the BitBake manual. >>> >>>I think the answer is "it depends". I think for 1.5 we will need some >>>basic information about the fact the UI exists, how to start it, what >>>the capabilities are, the limitations and some indication of future >>>plans (high level). This would probably be fine in the YP manuals and/or >>>on the wiki. If we do add any developer oriented docs such as how to >>>extend/customise it, those would probably be best in the bitbake manual. >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>Richard >>> >>> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Intel Corporation (UK) Limited >Registered No. 1134945 (England) >Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ >VAT No: 860 2173 47 > >This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for >the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution >by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended >recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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