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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Baoquan <bhe@redhat.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com,
	dyoung@redhat.com
Subject: Re: kdump failed because of hotplug memory adding in kdump kernel
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:56:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1389304583.1792.139.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140109212705.GC12111@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 16:27 -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 11:34:30AM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 13:23 -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 10:24:25AM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > > 
> > > [..]
> > > > > I think creating a new command line option is simpler as compared to
> > > > > creating a new flag in bootparam which in turn disables memory hotplug.
> > > > > More users can use that option. For example, if for some reason hotplug
> > > > > code is crashing, one can just disable it on command line as work around
> > > > > and move on.
> > > > 
> > > > I do not have a strong opinion about having such option.  However, I
> > > > think it is more user friendly to keep the exactmap option works alone
> > > > on any platforms.
> > > 
> > > I think we should create internally a variable which will disable memory
> > > hotplug. And set that variable based on memmap=exactmap, mem=X and also
> > > provide a way to disable memory hotplug directly using command line
> > > option.
> > > 
> > > Current kexec-tools can use memmap=exactmap and be happy. I am writing
> > > a new kexec syscall and will not be using memmap=exactmap and would need
> > > to use that command line option to disable memory hotplug behavior.
> > 
> > Sounds good to me.
> 
> Nobody responded to my other question, so I would ask it again.
> 
> Assume we have disabled hotplug memory in second kernel. First kernel
> saw hotplug memory and assume crash kernel reserved region came from
> there. We will pass this memory in bootparams to second kernel and it
> will show up in E820 map. It should still be accessible in second kernel,
> is that right?

Yes.

> Or there is some dependency on ACPI doing some magic before this memory
> range is available in second kernel?

No.  The 1st kernel reserves the crash kernel region, which cannot be
hot-deleted.  So, this region continues to be accessible by the 2nd
kernel without any operation.

I am more curious to know how makedumpfile decides what memory ranges to
dump.  The 1st kernel may have performed memory hot-add / delete
operations before a crash, so it needs to know the valid physical
address range at the time of crash, and may not rely on the E820 map
from BIOS (which is stale).  Am I right to assume that makedumpfile gets
it from the page tables of the 1st kernel?

Thanks,
-Toshi


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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>, Baoquan <bhe@redhat.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com,
	tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dyoung@redhat.com
Subject: Re: kdump failed because of hotplug memory adding in kdump kernel
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:56:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1389304583.1792.139.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140109212705.GC12111@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 16:27 -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 11:34:30AM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 13:23 -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 10:24:25AM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > > 
> > > [..]
> > > > > I think creating a new command line option is simpler as compared to
> > > > > creating a new flag in bootparam which in turn disables memory hotplug.
> > > > > More users can use that option. For example, if for some reason hotplug
> > > > > code is crashing, one can just disable it on command line as work around
> > > > > and move on.
> > > > 
> > > > I do not have a strong opinion about having such option.  However, I
> > > > think it is more user friendly to keep the exactmap option works alone
> > > > on any platforms.
> > > 
> > > I think we should create internally a variable which will disable memory
> > > hotplug. And set that variable based on memmap=exactmap, mem=X and also
> > > provide a way to disable memory hotplug directly using command line
> > > option.
> > > 
> > > Current kexec-tools can use memmap=exactmap and be happy. I am writing
> > > a new kexec syscall and will not be using memmap=exactmap and would need
> > > to use that command line option to disable memory hotplug behavior.
> > 
> > Sounds good to me.
> 
> Nobody responded to my other question, so I would ask it again.
> 
> Assume we have disabled hotplug memory in second kernel. First kernel
> saw hotplug memory and assume crash kernel reserved region came from
> there. We will pass this memory in bootparams to second kernel and it
> will show up in E820 map. It should still be accessible in second kernel,
> is that right?

Yes.

> Or there is some dependency on ACPI doing some magic before this memory
> range is available in second kernel?

No.  The 1st kernel reserves the crash kernel region, which cannot be
hot-deleted.  So, this region continues to be accessible by the 2nd
kernel without any operation.

I am more curious to know how makedumpfile decides what memory ranges to
dump.  The 1st kernel may have performed memory hot-add / delete
operations before a crash, so it needs to know the valid physical
address range at the time of crash, and may not rely on the E820 map
from BIOS (which is stale).  Am I right to assume that makedumpfile gets
it from the page tables of the 1st kernel?

Thanks,
-Toshi


  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-09 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-08 15:26 kdump failed because of hotplug memory adding in kdump kernel Baoquan
2014-01-08 15:26 ` Baoquan
2014-01-08 15:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-08 15:58   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-08 15:58   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-08 23:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-08 23:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-08 23:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-09  0:11     ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09  0:11       ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 13:10       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-09 13:10         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-09 14:53         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 14:53           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 14:53           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 16:15           ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 16:15             ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 16:15             ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 14:50       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 14:50         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 16:03         ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 16:03           ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 16:24           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 16:24             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 16:24             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 17:24             ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 17:24               ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 17:24               ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 18:23               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 18:23                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 18:23                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 18:34                 ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 18:34                   ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-09 21:27                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 21:27                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 21:27                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 21:56                     ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2014-01-09 21:56                       ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-10  7:11                       ` Baoquan
2014-01-10  7:11                         ` Baoquan
2014-01-10  8:06                         ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-01-10  8:06                           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-01-10  8:06                           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-01-10  9:14                           ` Baoquan
2014-01-10  9:14                             ` Baoquan
2014-01-10  9:14                             ` Baoquan
2014-01-10  9:35                             ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-01-10  9:35                               ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-01-10  9:35                               ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-01-10 10:27                               ` Baoquan
2014-01-10 10:27                                 ` Baoquan
2014-01-10 10:27                                 ` Baoquan
2014-01-10 15:19                             ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-10 15:19                               ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-10 15:56                         ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-10 15:56                           ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-10  1:40                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-10  1:40                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-09  3:22     ` Baoquan
2014-01-09  3:22       ` Baoquan
2014-01-09 14:48     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 14:48       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-01-09 14:48       ` Vivek Goyal

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