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From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: Steven Haigh <netwiz@crc.id.au>
Cc: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: vnc=1 / pvgrub / close fb: backend at /local/domain/0/backend/vfb/xx/0
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:31:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1413973894.23337.57.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5447829B.9050603@crc.id.au>

On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 21:10 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote:
> It seems like thats the case sadly. We have always pushed people towards
> pv-grub for that extra bit of security - but a world of documentation
> ignores the existence of pv-grub. As such, I doubt most people have even
> stumbled across pv-grub.

I have an outstanding TODO to write a blog post about pvgrub2 and how to
use it, this stuff really does need to get better propagated.

> I remember talk of pygrub being phased out - but I don't recall to what
> extent or what timeframe that is.

That's not the case, both pygrub and pvgrub[12] have their uses (that's
not to say we wouldn't suggest people think very hard about using pygrub
in their environment)

> >> I've no idea for #1 though.
> > 
> > I wonder too.
> > 
> >> Oh, is this with pvgrub 1 (the thing which ships with Xen) or pvgrub 2
> >> (from the upstream grub project fairly recently)? Your logs hint towards
> >> the former.
> > 
> > Yes, the logs definitely look like mini-os, thus pvgrub 1.
> 
> Yes, this is the Xen shipped pv-grub. I haven't found any mention of
> pvgrub 2 before - any links for that? I assume it can just be built and
> called from within the DomU config?

I think it's mostly ./configure --with-platform=xen, followed by the
usual grub2 install steps.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2013-11/msg00085.html has
an outline.

Debian has a grub-xen-bin package in Jessie now but IIRC you are an RPM
kinda guy.

Ian.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-22 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-21 15:17 vnc=1 / pvgrub / close fb: backend at /local/domain/0/backend/vfb/xx/0 Steven Haigh
2014-10-21 21:24 ` Steven Haigh
2014-10-22  9:00   ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-22  9:59     ` Samuel Thibault
2014-10-22 10:10       ` Steven Haigh
2014-10-22 10:19         ` Samuel Thibault
2014-10-22 10:31         ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2014-10-22 10:45           ` Steven Haigh
2014-10-22 10:40       ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-22 11:57         ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-22 12:05           ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-22 12:13             ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-22 15:23               ` Steven Haigh
2014-10-22 15:40                 ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-22 15:53                   ` Steven Haigh
2014-10-23  8:21                     ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-05 17:49                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-06  9:49                       ` Steven Haigh
2014-11-06 10:34                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-06 11:05                           ` Steven Haigh
2014-11-06 10:41                     ` [PATCH] pvgrub: ignore NUL Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-06 11:39                       ` Samuel Thibault
2014-11-06 15:43                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-06 19:36                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-11-06 23:13                             ` Samuel Thibault
2014-11-10 12:20                         ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-10 12:21                         ` Ian Campbell

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