From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: pagupta@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 0/5] virtio_net: enabling tx interrupts
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:59:48 +0008 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1417513908.16540.0@smtp.corp.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141202094318.GB7732@redhat.com>
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 08:15:02AM +0008, Jason Wang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin
>> <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >>On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 06:17:03PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> >>> Hello:
>> >>> We used to orphan packets before transmission for virtio-net.
>> This
>> >>>breaks
>> >>> socket accounting and can lead serveral functions won't work,
>> e.g:
>> >>> - Byte Queue Limit depends on tx completion nofication to work.
>> >>> - Packet Generator depends on tx completion nofication for the
>> last
>> >>> transmitted packet to complete.
>> >>> - TCP Small Queue depends on proper accounting of sk_wmem_alloc
>> to
>> >>>work.
>> >>> This series tries to solve the issue by enabling tx
>> interrupts. To
>> >>>minize
>> >>> the performance impacts of this, several optimizations were
>> used:
>> >>> - In guest side, virtqueue_enable_cb_delayed() was used to
>> delay the
>> >>>tx
>> >>> interrupt untile 3/4 pending packets were sent.
>> >>> - In host side, interrupt coalescing were used to reduce tx
>> >>>interrupts.
>> >>> Performance test results[1] (tx-frames 16 tx-usecs 16) shows:
>> >>> - For guest receiving. No obvious regression on throughput were
>> >>> noticed. More cpu utilization were noticed in few cases.
>> >>> - For guest transmission. Very huge improvement on througput for
>> >>>small
>> >>> packet transmission were noticed. This is expected since TSQ
>> and
>> >>>other
>> >>> optimization for small packet transmission work after tx
>> interrupt.
>> >>>But
>> >>> will use more cpu for large packets.
>> >>> - For TCP_RR, regression (10% on transaction rate and cpu
>> >>>utilization) were
>> >>> found. Tx interrupt won't help but cause overhead in this
>> case.
>> >>>Using
>> >>> more aggressive coalescing parameters may help to reduce the
>> >>>regression.
>> >>
>> >>OK, you do have posted coalescing patches - does it help any?
>> >
>> >Helps a lot.
>> >
>> >For RX, it saves about 5% - 10% cpu. (reduce 60%-90% tx intrs)
>> >For small packet TX, it increases 33% - 245% throughput. (reduce
>> about 60%
>> >inters)
>> >For TCP_RR, it increase the 3%-10% trans.rate. (reduce 40%-80% tx
>> intrs)
>> >
>> >>
>> >>I'm not sure the regression is due to interrupts.
>> >>It would make sense for CPU but why would it
>> >>hurt transaction rate?
>> >
>> >Anyway guest need to take some cycles to handle tx interrupts.
>> >And transaction rate does increase if we coalesces more tx
>> interurpts.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>It's possible that we are deferring kicks too much due to BQL.
>> >>
>> >>As an experiment: do we get any of it back if we do
>> >>- if (kick || netif_xmit_stopped(txq))
>> >>- virtqueue_kick(sq->vq);
>> >>+ virtqueue_kick(sq->vq);
>> >>?
>> >
>> >
>> >I will try, but during TCP_RR, at most 1 packets were pending,
>> >I suspect if BQL can help in this case.
>>
>> Looks like this helps a lot in multiple sessions of TCP_RR.
>
> so what's faster
> BQL + kick each packet
> no BQL
> ?
Quick and manual tests (TCP_RR 64, TCP_STREAM 512) does not
show obvious differences.
May need a complete benchmark to see.
>
>
>> How about move the BQL patch out of this series?
>>
>> Let's first converge tx interrupt and then introduce it?
>> (e.g with kicking after queuing X bytes?)
>
> Sounds good.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
davem@davemloft.net, pagupta@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 0/5] virtio_net: enabling tx interrupts
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:59:48 +0008 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1417513908.16540.0@smtp.corp.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141202094318.GB7732@redhat.com>
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 08:15:02AM +0008, Jason Wang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin
>> <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >>On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 06:17:03PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> >>> Hello:
>> >>> We used to orphan packets before transmission for virtio-net.
>> This
>> >>>breaks
>> >>> socket accounting and can lead serveral functions won't work,
>> e.g:
>> >>> - Byte Queue Limit depends on tx completion nofication to work.
>> >>> - Packet Generator depends on tx completion nofication for the
>> last
>> >>> transmitted packet to complete.
>> >>> - TCP Small Queue depends on proper accounting of sk_wmem_alloc
>> to
>> >>>work.
>> >>> This series tries to solve the issue by enabling tx
>> interrupts. To
>> >>>minize
>> >>> the performance impacts of this, several optimizations were
>> used:
>> >>> - In guest side, virtqueue_enable_cb_delayed() was used to
>> delay the
>> >>>tx
>> >>> interrupt untile 3/4 pending packets were sent.
>> >>> - In host side, interrupt coalescing were used to reduce tx
>> >>>interrupts.
>> >>> Performance test results[1] (tx-frames 16 tx-usecs 16) shows:
>> >>> - For guest receiving. No obvious regression on throughput were
>> >>> noticed. More cpu utilization were noticed in few cases.
>> >>> - For guest transmission. Very huge improvement on througput for
>> >>>small
>> >>> packet transmission were noticed. This is expected since TSQ
>> and
>> >>>other
>> >>> optimization for small packet transmission work after tx
>> interrupt.
>> >>>But
>> >>> will use more cpu for large packets.
>> >>> - For TCP_RR, regression (10% on transaction rate and cpu
>> >>>utilization) were
>> >>> found. Tx interrupt won't help but cause overhead in this
>> case.
>> >>>Using
>> >>> more aggressive coalescing parameters may help to reduce the
>> >>>regression.
>> >>
>> >>OK, you do have posted coalescing patches - does it help any?
>> >
>> >Helps a lot.
>> >
>> >For RX, it saves about 5% - 10% cpu. (reduce 60%-90% tx intrs)
>> >For small packet TX, it increases 33% - 245% throughput. (reduce
>> about 60%
>> >inters)
>> >For TCP_RR, it increase the 3%-10% trans.rate. (reduce 40%-80% tx
>> intrs)
>> >
>> >>
>> >>I'm not sure the regression is due to interrupts.
>> >>It would make sense for CPU but why would it
>> >>hurt transaction rate?
>> >
>> >Anyway guest need to take some cycles to handle tx interrupts.
>> >And transaction rate does increase if we coalesces more tx
>> interurpts.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>It's possible that we are deferring kicks too much due to BQL.
>> >>
>> >>As an experiment: do we get any of it back if we do
>> >>- if (kick || netif_xmit_stopped(txq))
>> >>- virtqueue_kick(sq->vq);
>> >>+ virtqueue_kick(sq->vq);
>> >>?
>> >
>> >
>> >I will try, but during TCP_RR, at most 1 packets were pending,
>> >I suspect if BQL can help in this case.
>>
>> Looks like this helps a lot in multiple sessions of TCP_RR.
>
> so what's faster
> BQL + kick each packet
> no BQL
> ?
Quick and manual tests (TCP_RR 64, TCP_STREAM 512) does not
show obvious differences.
May need a complete benchmark to see.
>
>
>> How about move the BQL patch out of this series?
>>
>> Let's first converge tx interrupt and then introduce it?
>> (e.g with kicking after queuing X bytes?)
>
> Sounds good.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-02 9:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-01 10:17 [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 0/5] virtio_net: enabling tx interrupts Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 1/5] virtio_net: enable tx interrupt Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-01 10:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 3:09 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-02 3:09 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-19 7:32 ` Qin Chuanyu
2014-12-19 7:32 ` Qin Chuanyu
2014-12-19 7:32 ` Qin Chuanyu
2014-12-19 10:02 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-19 10:02 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 2/5] virtio_net: bql Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 3/5] virtio-net: optimize free_old_xmit_skbs stats Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 4/5] virtio-net: add basic interrupt coalescing support Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 5/5] vhost_net: " Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:17 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-01 10:42 ` [PATCH RFC v4 net-next 0/5] virtio_net: enabling tx interrupts Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-01 10:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 3:15 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-02 3:15 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-02 8:07 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-02 8:07 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-02 9:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 9:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 9:51 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2014-12-02 9:51 ` Jason Wang
2014-12-02 9:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 9:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 10:08 ` Pankaj Gupta
2014-12-02 10:08 ` Pankaj Gupta
2014-12-02 10:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 10:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 10:00 ` David Laight
2014-12-02 10:00 ` David Laight
2014-12-02 10:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-02 10:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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