From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
andrea@suse.de, torvalds@transmeta.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:12:16 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <14199.62272.298499.628883@dukat.scot.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199906282111.OAA54637@google.engr.sgi.com>
Hi,
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:11:18 -0700 (PDT), kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com
(Kanoj Sarcar) said:
> If I understand right, here is an example. Lets say I believe I
> have scanned uptil pid 10. You are suggesting, after having scanned
> pid 10, hold on to task_lock, and look for the min pid > 10. Say
> that is pid 12. Problem is, while I was scanning pid 10, maybe
> pid 5 got reallocated, and pid 5 is a new process (probably a
> child of pid 20).
Fine --- repeat the whole thing until we have no swap entries left. We
can still guarantee to make progress without extra locking for normal
swapping.
>> It will work. It's a little extra overhead, but it confines all of
>> the cost to the swapoff path. The pid scan isn't going to be nearly
>> as expensive as the rest of the vm scanning we are already forced to
>> do in swapoff.
> I would love to confine the complexity in the swapoff path, except
> I can't come up with a solution. In any case, I think I was not
> clear about what the cost is in my fix. It is adding 2 chain fields
> in the mm structure, adding and deleting to this chain at mm alloc/free
> time, and the up/down cost on the mutex.
But it's not necessary. Other OSes may add a lock here, a lock there
every time it happens to make a non-performance-critical path easier,
but in the long term that sort of thinking just bloats the fast paths.
> Note that the up/down cost is minimal (one atomic inc/dec) when no
> swapoff is going on
On SMP, the cache traffic produced by such locks is not minimal. You
can measure the performance hit of every single cache miss that results.
--Stephen
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~1999-06-28 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-06-21 5:29 filecache/swapcache questions Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 11:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 16:46 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 17:36 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 17:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 18:46 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 23:44 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-24 22:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-24 23:55 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-25 0:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 1:48 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 10:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 17:11 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 16:32 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 17:25 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:11 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:12 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
1999-06-28 23:43 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:44 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 22:01 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-30 17:28 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-30 18:05 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 19:39 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 19:55 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:33 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 20:51 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:32 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:38 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:50 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:15 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:23 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 17:36 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:22 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 2:13 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 12:01 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-30 15:59 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 1:00 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 0:53 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:14 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:09 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 20:45 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:14 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:25 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:15 ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 1:29 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:58 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 15:27 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:55 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 20:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 22:36 ` filecache/swapcache questions Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:24 ` Kanoj Sarcar
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