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From: kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com (Kanoj Sarcar)
To: Chuck Lever <cel@monkey.org>
Cc: andrea@suse.de, torvalds@transmeta.com, sct@redhat.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:55:23 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199906281955.MAA06984@google.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.10.9906281530400.24888-100000@funky.monkey.org> from "Chuck Lever" at Jun 28, 99 03:39:43 pm

> 
> i'm already working on a patch that will allow kswapd to grab the mmap_sem
> for the task that is about to be swapped.  this takes a slightly different
> approach, since i'm focusing on kswapd and not on swapoff.  essentially
> the patch does two things:

So, I would think some (if not mine) swapoff fix is still needed ...

> 
> 1)  it separates the logic of try_to_free_pages() and kswapd.  kswapd now
> does the swapping, while try_to_free_pages() only does the shrink_mmap()
> phase.
> 
> 2)  after kswapd has chosen a process to swap, it drops the kernel lock
> and grabs the mmap_sem for the thing it's about to swap.  it picks up the
> kernel lock at appropriate points lower in the code.
>

Agreed this would be a nice thing to be able to do ... 
Other than the deadlock problem, there's another issue involved, I 
think. Processes can go to sleep (inside drivers/fs for example while
mmaping/munmaping/faulting) holding their mmap_sem, so any solution 
should be able to guarantee that (at least one of) the memory free'ers 
do not go to sleep indefinitely (or for some time that is upto driver/fs
code to determine).

Kanoj
kanoj@engr.sgi.com
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  reply	other threads:[~1999-06-28 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-06-21  5:29 filecache/swapcache questions Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 11:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 16:46   ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 16:57     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 17:36       ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 17:49         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 18:46           ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 23:44             ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-24 22:23               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-24 23:55                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-25  0:26                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28  1:48                     ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 10:35                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 17:11                         ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 16:32                       ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 17:25                         ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:40                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:11                             ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:12                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:43                                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:44                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 22:01                                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-30 17:28                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-30 18:05                                         ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 19:39                       ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 19:55                         ` Kanoj Sarcar [this message]
1999-06-28 20:33                           ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 20:51                             ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:32                               ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:38                                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:50                                   ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:15                                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:23                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 17:36                                         ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:22                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:21                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:57                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29  2:13                                     ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 12:01                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:32                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-30 15:59                                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29  1:00                                   ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:08                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:59                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29  0:53                                 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:14                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:09                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 20:45                         ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:14                           ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:25                             ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:15                             ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:48                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29  1:29                               ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:58                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:09                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 15:27                                   ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:55                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 20:08                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 22:36             ` filecache/swapcache questions Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:24               ` Kanoj Sarcar

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