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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/13] tools/libxl: Add 'vtsc_khz' option to set guest TSC rate
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:28:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1443522518.16718.36.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <560A66E4.2010205@citrix.com>

On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 11:24 +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 29/09/15 11:13, Haozhong Zhang wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:04:14AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 15:13 +0800, Haozhong Zhang wrote:
> > > > This patch adds an option 'vtsc_khz' to allow users to set vcpu's
> > > > TSC
> > > > rate in KHz. In the case that tsc_mode = 'default', the default
> > > > value of
> > > > 'vtsc_khz' option is the host TSC rate which is used when
> > > > 'vtsc_khz'
> > > > option is set to 0 or does not appear in the configuration. In all
> > > > other
> > > > cases of tsc_mode, 'vtsc_khz' option is just ignored.
> > > > 
> > > > Another purpose of adding this option is to keep vcpu's TSC rate
> > > > across
> > > > guest reboot. In existing code, a new domain is created from the
> > > > configuration of the previous domain which was just rebooted.
> > > > vcpu's TSC
> > > > rate is not stored in the configuration and the host TSC rate is
> > > > the
> > > > used as vcpu's TSC rate. This works fine unless the previous domain
> > > > was
> > > > migrated from another host machine with a different host TSC rate
> > > > than
> > > > the current one.
> > > I understand why this is necessary over a migration, but why is it
> > > important to be able to retain the TSC rate across a reboot? What is
> > > the
> > > usecase there?
> > > 
> > No usecase so far. Is 'making a virtual machine more like a physical
> > machine' reasonable here? (I suppose a physical machine retains TSC
> > rate across reboot)
> 
> There are situations such as altering firmware settings which can cause
> the TSC rate to differ across reboot.  I don't see any reason to try and
> maintain it across VM reboots.

Right. If it happens to come for free as a side effect of making it work
for migration then fine.

But it seems to me that tsc rate could/should be in the hypervisors save
blob and require no interaction with the toolstack once it is latched when
the domain is built.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-29 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-28  7:13 [PATCH 00/13] Add VMX TSC scaling support Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 01/13] x86/time.c: Use system time to calculate elapsed_nsec in tsc_get_info() Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09  6:51   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 13:41     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 14:00       ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 15:11         ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 16:09           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 16:19             ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 16:31               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 16:51                 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 18:59                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 14:39       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 15:37         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 16:39           ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 16:44             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 14:35     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 14:43       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 15:56         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-14  2:45     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-14  9:40       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-14 10:00         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-14 10:20           ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-14 10:24             ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 02/13] x86/time.c: Get the correct guest TSC rate " Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 03/13] x86/hvm: Collect information of TSC scaling ratio Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 12:53   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 14:40     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 14:51       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 15:57         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 04/13] x86/hvm: Setup " Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 13:13   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 15:55     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 16:05       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 16:39         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-23  7:44     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-23  7:59       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-23  8:18         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-23  8:31           ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-23  8:40             ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-23  9:18               ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 05/13] x86/hvm: Replace architecture TSC scaling by a common function Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 13:52   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-23  0:49     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 06/13] x86/hvm: Scale host TSC when setting/getting guest TSC Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 14:17   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 15:44     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-22 16:23       ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 20:16       ` Aravind Gopalakrishnan
2015-10-28  1:51         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-11-09  7:43         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-11-12 13:50           ` George Dunlap
2015-10-22 16:03     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27  1:54     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27  8:15       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-27  8:25         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27  8:44     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 13:10       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-27 13:55         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-27 16:13           ` haozhong.zhang
2015-10-27 16:13         ` haozhong.zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 07/13] x86/hvm: Move saving/loading vcpu's TSC to common code Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 14:54   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 08/13] x86/hvm: Detect TSC scaling through hvm_funcs in tsc_set_info() Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 15:01   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 09/13] x86/time.c: Scale host TSC in pvclock properly Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 16:36   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-09-29  0:19     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 15:50   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-22 16:44     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 19:15       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 10/13] vmx: Detect and initialize VMX RDTSC(P) scaling Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 13:19   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-27 16:17     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 11/13] vmx: Use scaled host TSC to calculate TSC offset Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 15:55   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-22 17:12     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 19:19       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-23  0:52         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 13:29   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-27 16:21     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 12/13] vmx: Add a call-back to apply TSC scaling ratio to hardware Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 16:02   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-09-29  1:07     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29  9:33       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 10:02         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 10:25           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 13:59             ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 13:33   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-28  2:41     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28  7:13 ` [PATCH 13/13] tools/libxl: Add 'vtsc_khz' option to set guest TSC rate Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 11:47   ` Julien Grall
2015-09-28 12:11     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 14:19   ` Wei Liu
2015-09-29  0:40     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29  9:20       ` Wei Liu
2015-09-29  9:50         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 10:24           ` Julien Grall
2015-09-29 10:07       ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-29 10:33         ` Wei Liu
2015-09-29 12:57         ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 10:04   ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-29 10:13     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 10:24       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 10:28         ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-09-29 10:31           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 13:53           ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 13:56             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 14:01               ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 14:37                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-29 15:16                   ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 10:51 ` [PATCH 00/13] Add VMX TSC scaling support Andrew Cooper
2015-09-28 13:48   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-11-22 17:54 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-11-23 15:37   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-11-24 13:05     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-11-24 14:19       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-11-24 14:25       ` Haozhong Zhang

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