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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] firmware: replace call to fw_read_file_contents() with kernel version
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 07:05:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1453377959.9549.84.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=NE6Wbx4hY6q2skNp4JQVvfP-eCHxr3rT3h1bq6zuSsoN9+w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 15:56 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@suse.com> wrote:

> >> @@ -350,13 +321,18 @@ static int fw_get_filesystem_firmware(struct device *device,
> >>               file = filp_open(path, O_RDONLY, 0);
> >>               if (IS_ERR(file))
> >>                       continue;
> >> -             rc = fw_read_file_contents(file, buf);
> >> +
> >> +             buf->size = 0;
> >> +             rc = kernel_read_file(file, &buf->data, &size, INT_MAX,
> >> +                                   FIRMWARE_CHECK);
> >
> > The way kernel firmware signing was implemented was that we'd first read the
> > foo.sig (or whatever extension we use). 

Was there a reason for using a detached signature and not using the same
method as kernel modules?

> The same kernel_read_file() would be
> > used if this gets applied so this would still works well with that. Of course
> > folks using IMA and their own security policy would just disable the kernel
> > fw signing facility.

Right, support for not measuring/appraising the firmware and sig would
be supported in the policy.

> >> diff --git a/include/linux/ima.h b/include/linux/ima.h
> >> index ae91938..0a7f039 100644
> >> --- a/include/linux/ima.h
> >> +++ b/include/linux/ima.h
> >> @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ struct linux_binprm;
> >>  enum ima_policy_id {
> >>       KEXEC_CHECK = 1,
> >>       INITRAMFS_CHECK,
> >> +     FIRMWARE_CHECK,
> >>       IMA_MAX_READ_CHECK
> >>  };
> >
> > The only thing that is worth questioning here in light of kernel fw signing is
> > what int policy_id do we use? Would we be OK to add FIRMWARE_SIG_CHECK later
> > While at it, perhaps kernel_read_file() last argument should be enum
> > ima_policy_id then. If the policy_id is going to be used elsewhere outside of
> > IMA then perhaps ima.h is not the best place for it ? Would fs.h for type of
> > file be OK ? Then we'd have a list of known file types the kernel reads.

I would definitely prefer the enumeration be defined at the VFS layer.
For example, 

enum kernel_read_file_id {
        READING_KEXEC_IMAGE,
        READING_KEXEC_INITRAMFS,
        READING_FIRMWARE,
        READING_FIRMWARE_SIG,
        READING_MAX_ID
};

Agreed, the last field of kernel_read_file() and the wrappers should be
the enumeration. 

> Actually your patch #9 "ima: load policy using path" defines
> kernel_read_file_from_path and since the firmware code uses a path
> this code would be much cleaner if instead you used that. It'd mean
> more code sharing and would make firmware code cleaner. Could you
> re-order that to go first and then later this as its first user?
> Perhaps add the helper for the firmware patch.

Thanks, I missed that.  I'll include this change in the next version.

Mimi


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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
	fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] firmware: replace call to fw_read_file_contents() with kernel version
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 07:05:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1453377959.9549.84.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=NE6Wbx4hY6q2skNp4JQVvfP-eCHxr3rT3h1bq6zuSsoN9+w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 15:56 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@suse.com> wrote:

> >> @@ -350,13 +321,18 @@ static int fw_get_filesystem_firmware(struct device *device,
> >>               file = filp_open(path, O_RDONLY, 0);
> >>               if (IS_ERR(file))
> >>                       continue;
> >> -             rc = fw_read_file_contents(file, buf);
> >> +
> >> +             buf->size = 0;
> >> +             rc = kernel_read_file(file, &buf->data, &size, INT_MAX,
> >> +                                   FIRMWARE_CHECK);
> >
> > The way kernel firmware signing was implemented was that we'd first read the
> > foo.sig (or whatever extension we use). 

Was there a reason for using a detached signature and not using the same
method as kernel modules?

> The same kernel_read_file() would be
> > used if this gets applied so this would still works well with that. Of course
> > folks using IMA and their own security policy would just disable the kernel
> > fw signing facility.

Right, support for not measuring/appraising the firmware and sig would
be supported in the policy.

> >> diff --git a/include/linux/ima.h b/include/linux/ima.h
> >> index ae91938..0a7f039 100644
> >> --- a/include/linux/ima.h
> >> +++ b/include/linux/ima.h
> >> @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ struct linux_binprm;
> >>  enum ima_policy_id {
> >>       KEXEC_CHECK = 1,
> >>       INITRAMFS_CHECK,
> >> +     FIRMWARE_CHECK,
> >>       IMA_MAX_READ_CHECK
> >>  };
> >
> > The only thing that is worth questioning here in light of kernel fw signing is
> > what int policy_id do we use? Would we be OK to add FIRMWARE_SIG_CHECK later
> > While at it, perhaps kernel_read_file() last argument should be enum
> > ima_policy_id then. If the policy_id is going to be used elsewhere outside of
> > IMA then perhaps ima.h is not the best place for it ? Would fs.h for type of
> > file be OK ? Then we'd have a list of known file types the kernel reads.

I would definitely prefer the enumeration be defined at the VFS layer.
For example, 

enum kernel_read_file_id {
        READING_KEXEC_IMAGE,
        READING_KEXEC_INITRAMFS,
        READING_FIRMWARE,
        READING_FIRMWARE_SIG,
        READING_MAX_ID
};

Agreed, the last field of kernel_read_file() and the wrappers should be
the enumeration. 

> Actually your patch #9 "ima: load policy using path" defines
> kernel_read_file_from_path and since the firmware code uses a path
> this code would be much cleaner if instead you used that. It'd mean
> more code sharing and would make firmware code cleaner. Could you
> re-order that to go first and then later this as its first user?
> Perhaps add the helper for the firmware patch.

Thanks, I missed that.  I'll include this change in the next version.

Mimi


  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-21 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-18 15:11 [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] vfss: support for a common kernel file loader Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/11] ima: separate 'security.ima' reading functionality from collect Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-19 20:00   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2016-01-19 20:00     ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2016-01-21 13:19     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 13:19       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 18:18       ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2016-01-21 18:18         ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/11] vfs: define a generic function to read a file from the kernel Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-20  1:09   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20  1:09     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 13:24     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 13:24       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/11] ima: provide buffer hash calculation function Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-19 19:26   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2016-01-19 19:26     ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2016-01-21 13:18     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 13:18       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] ima: calculate the hash of a buffer using aynchronous hash(ahash) Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/11] ima: define a new hook to measure and appraise a file already in memory Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/11] kexec: replace call to copy_file_from_fd() with kernel version Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-20  3:22   ` Minfei Huang
2016-01-20  3:22     ` Minfei Huang
2016-01-20 23:12   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 23:12     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21  0:27     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-01-21  0:27       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-01-25  6:37   ` Dave Young
2016-01-25  6:37     ` Dave Young
2016-01-25  7:02     ` Dave Young
2016-01-25  7:02       ` Dave Young
2016-01-25 15:04     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-25 15:04       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-25 20:34       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-25 20:34         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-25 23:48         ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-25 23:48           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-26 20:48           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-26 20:48             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-26  1:20       ` Dave Young
2016-01-26  1:20         ` Dave Young
2016-01-26 16:40         ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-26 16:40           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-27  1:50           ` Dave Young
2016-01-27  1:50             ` Dave Young
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] firmware: replace call to fw_read_file_contents() " Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-20  0:10   ` Kees Cook
2016-01-20  0:10     ` Kees Cook
2016-01-21 12:04     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 12:04       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-20 23:39   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 23:39     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 23:56     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 23:56       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 12:05       ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2016-01-21 12:05         ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 16:49         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 16:49           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/11] module: replace copy_module_from_fd " Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21  0:03   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21  0:03     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 13:12     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 13:12       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 15:45       ` Paul Moore
2016-01-21 15:45         ` Paul Moore
2016-01-21 21:15         ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 21:15           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 21:26           ` Paul Moore
2016-01-21 21:26             ` Paul Moore
2016-01-21 21:58           ` Kees Cook
2016-01-21 21:58             ` Kees Cook
2016-01-21 16:56       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 16:56         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 20:37         ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 20:37           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/11] ima: load policy using path Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21  0:05   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21  0:05     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 13:15     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 13:15       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-23  2:59   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-23  2:59     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/11] ima: measure and appraise the IMA policy itself Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/11] ima: require signed IMA policy Mimi Zohar
2016-01-18 15:11   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] vfss: support for a common kernel file loader Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 20:16   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 20:18   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-21 20:18     ` Mimi Zohar

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