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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: fast path cycle muncher (vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and shut down on idle)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:31:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1453833078.3534.59.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1601261022140.27957@east.gentwo.org>

On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 10:25 -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > > Why would the deferring cause this overhead?
> > 
> > I guess the profile speaks for itself, doesn't it?
> 
> But the system is going idle? Why would this impact performance?

We enter/exit idle a lot.

Your reluctance to move it seem to suggest that 99.99% of CPUs on the
planet chewing up cycles (measured) doing what for most is useless work
on every micro-idle is a perfectly fine price to pay to ensure that
.01% (or whatever tiny minority) get what they want.

I disagree.  You're burning electrons for no benefit at all to me on my
box.  You want to do high speed trading, that's fine, but I expect my
box to be able to pop in and out of idle without having to pay a toll
to the high speed trading bandits of the world, thank you very much.

This specialty thing does not belong in the generic fast path.

	-Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-26 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-19  0:33 mm, vmstat: kernel BUG at mm/vmstat.c:1408! Sasha Levin
2015-12-19  0:33 ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 13:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-21 13:08   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-21 20:28   ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 20:28     ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 21:07     ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 21:07       ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 21:14       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-21 21:14         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-22 17:21         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-22 17:21           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-24 20:14         ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-29 17:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-29 17:01             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-29 17:18             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-29 17:18               ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-04 18:05           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-04 18:05             ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-04 18:46             ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-04 18:46               ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-12 11:31   ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-12 11:31     ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-12 12:23     ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-12 12:23       ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-12 12:27       ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-12 12:27         ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-13 11:36       ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-13 11:36         ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-13 12:32         ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-13 12:32           ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-14 21:06         ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-14 21:06           ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 14:37   ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 14:56   ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 14:56     ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 15:10     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 15:10       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 15:20       ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:20         ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:49         ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 15:49           ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 15:55           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:55             ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 21:28             ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 21:28               ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 21:57               ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 21:57                 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-21  8:24                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-21  8:24                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-21 15:45                   ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-21 15:45                     ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-21 16:51                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-21 16:51                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-21 17:38                       ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-21 17:38                         ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 11:00                         ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-22 11:00                           ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-22 14:04                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 14:04                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 16:07                           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 16:07                             ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 16:12                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 16:12                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 16:46                               ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 16:46                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 17:12                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 17:12                                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-23 16:21                                 ` fast path cycle muncher (vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and shut down on idle) Mike Galbraith
2016-01-24  0:33                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-24  2:46                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-24  3:46                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-24  5:36                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-25 17:42                                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-25 18:02                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-25 20:13                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-26 16:25                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 18:31                                           ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2016-01-26 18:34                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 18:45                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 19:20                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-27  3:12                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-27  4:15                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-27 16:28                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 15:36                                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-01-28 16:42                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26  2:14                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26  2:25                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 16:26                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 17:39                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 18:19                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 16:26                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 17:08                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 18:22                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 19:09                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 19:22                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-27 16:48                                   ` [PATCH] mm, vmstat: make quiet_vmstat lighter (was: Re: fast path cycle muncher (vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable) " Michal Hocko
2016-01-27 17:03                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-27 18:26                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 15:21                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 16:40                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 16:53                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 17:05                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 15:31                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 15:37                                         ` [PATCH] vmstat: make vmstat_update deferrable (was: Re: [PATCH] mm, vmstat: make quiet_vmstat lighter) " Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 16:48                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 16:42                                         ` [PATCH] mm, vmstat: make quiet_vmstat lighter (was: Re: fast " Christoph Lameter
2016-01-24 16:57                                 ` mm, vmstat: kernel BUG at mm/vmstat.c:1408! Linus Torvalds
2016-01-24 16:57                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-20 15:14   ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:14     ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:20     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 15:20       ` Michal Hocko

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