From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: mm, vmstat: kernel BUG at mm/vmstat.c:1408!
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:24:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160121082402.GA29520@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1601201552590.26496@east.gentwo.org>
On Wed 20-01-16 15:57:43, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> > On Wed 20-01-16 09:55:22, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Subject: vmstat: Remove BUG_ON from vmstat_update
> > >
> > > If we detect that there is nothing to do just set the flag and do not check
> > > if it was already set before. Races really do not matter. If the flag is
> > > set by any code then the shepherd will start dealing with the situation
> > > and reenable the vmstat workers when necessary again.
> > >
> > > Concurrent actions could be onlining and offlining of processors or be a
> > > result of concurrency issues when updating the cpumask from multiple
> > > processors.
> >
> > Now that 7e988032 ("vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and
> > shut down on idle) is merged the VM_BUG_ON is simply bogus because
> > vmstat_update might "race" with quiet_vmstat. The changelog should
> > reflect that. What about the following wording?
>
> How can it race if preemption is off?
See below.
> > Since 0eb77e988032 ("vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and
> > shut down on idle") quiet_vmstat might update cpu_stat_off and mark a
> > particular cpu to be handled by vmstat_shepherd. This might trigger
> > a VM_BUG_ON in vmstat_update because the work item might have been
> > sleeping during the idle period and see the cpu_stat_off updated after
> > the wake up. The VM_BUG_ON is therefore misleading and no more
> > appropriate. Moreover it doesn't really suite any protection from real
> > bugs because vmstat_shepherd will simply reschedule the vmstat_work
> > anytime it sees a particular cpu set or vmstat_update would do the same
> > from the worker context directly. Even when the two would race the
> > result wouldn't be incorrect as the counters update is fully idempotent.
>
>
> Hmmm... the vmstat_update can be interrupted while running and the cpu put
> into idle mode? If vmstat_update is running then the cpu is not idle but
> running code. If this is really going on then there is other stuff wrong
> with the idling logic.
The vmstat update might be still waiting for its timer, idle mode started
and kick vmstat_update which might cpumask_test_and_set_cpu. Once the
idle terminates and the originally schedule vmstate_update executes it
sees the bit set and BUG_ON.
> > Fixes: 0eb77e988032 ("vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and
> > shut down on idle")
> > CC: stable # 4.4+
>
> ?? There has not been an upstream release with this yet.
Ohh, I thought it made it into 4.4 but you are right it is post 4.4 so
no CC: stable required.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: mm, vmstat: kernel BUG at mm/vmstat.c:1408!
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:24:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160121082402.GA29520@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1601201552590.26496@east.gentwo.org>
On Wed 20-01-16 15:57:43, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> > On Wed 20-01-16 09:55:22, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Subject: vmstat: Remove BUG_ON from vmstat_update
> > >
> > > If we detect that there is nothing to do just set the flag and do not check
> > > if it was already set before. Races really do not matter. If the flag is
> > > set by any code then the shepherd will start dealing with the situation
> > > and reenable the vmstat workers when necessary again.
> > >
> > > Concurrent actions could be onlining and offlining of processors or be a
> > > result of concurrency issues when updating the cpumask from multiple
> > > processors.
> >
> > Now that 7e988032 ("vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and
> > shut down on idle) is merged the VM_BUG_ON is simply bogus because
> > vmstat_update might "race" with quiet_vmstat. The changelog should
> > reflect that. What about the following wording?
>
> How can it race if preemption is off?
See below.
> > Since 0eb77e988032 ("vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and
> > shut down on idle") quiet_vmstat might update cpu_stat_off and mark a
> > particular cpu to be handled by vmstat_shepherd. This might trigger
> > a VM_BUG_ON in vmstat_update because the work item might have been
> > sleeping during the idle period and see the cpu_stat_off updated after
> > the wake up. The VM_BUG_ON is therefore misleading and no more
> > appropriate. Moreover it doesn't really suite any protection from real
> > bugs because vmstat_shepherd will simply reschedule the vmstat_work
> > anytime it sees a particular cpu set or vmstat_update would do the same
> > from the worker context directly. Even when the two would race the
> > result wouldn't be incorrect as the counters update is fully idempotent.
>
>
> Hmmm... the vmstat_update can be interrupted while running and the cpu put
> into idle mode? If vmstat_update is running then the cpu is not idle but
> running code. If this is really going on then there is other stuff wrong
> with the idling logic.
The vmstat update might be still waiting for its timer, idle mode started
and kick vmstat_update which might cpumask_test_and_set_cpu. Once the
idle terminates and the originally schedule vmstate_update executes it
sees the bit set and BUG_ON.
> > Fixes: 0eb77e988032 ("vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and
> > shut down on idle")
> > CC: stable # 4.4+
>
> ?? There has not been an upstream release with this yet.
Ohh, I thought it made it into 4.4 but you are right it is post 4.4 so
no CC: stable required.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-21 8:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-19 0:33 mm, vmstat: kernel BUG at mm/vmstat.c:1408! Sasha Levin
2015-12-19 0:33 ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 13:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-21 13:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-21 20:28 ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 20:28 ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 21:07 ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 21:07 ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 21:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-21 21:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-22 17:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-22 17:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-24 20:14 ` Sasha Levin
2015-12-29 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-29 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-29 17:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-12-29 17:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-04 18:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-04 18:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-04 18:46 ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-04 18:46 ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-12 11:31 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-12 11:31 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-12 12:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-12 12:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-12 12:27 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-12 12:27 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-13 11:36 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-13 11:36 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-13 12:32 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-13 12:32 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-14 21:06 ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-14 21:06 ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 14:56 ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 14:56 ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 15:10 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 15:10 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 15:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:49 ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 15:49 ` Sasha Levin
2016-01-20 15:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 21:28 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 21:28 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 21:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 21:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-21 8:24 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-01-21 8:24 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-21 15:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-21 15:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-21 16:51 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-21 16:51 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-21 17:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-21 17:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 11:00 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-22 11:00 ` Shiraz Hashim
2016-01-22 14:04 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 14:04 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 16:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 16:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 16:12 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 16:12 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 16:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 16:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-22 17:12 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-22 17:12 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-23 16:21 ` fast path cycle muncher (vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable again and shut down on idle) Mike Galbraith
2016-01-24 0:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-24 2:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-24 3:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-24 5:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-25 17:42 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-25 18:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-25 20:13 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-26 16:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 18:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 18:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 18:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 19:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-27 3:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-27 4:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-27 16:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 15:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-01-28 16:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 2:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 2:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 16:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 17:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 18:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 16:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 17:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 18:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-26 19:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-26 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-27 16:48 ` [PATCH] mm, vmstat: make quiet_vmstat lighter (was: Re: fast path cycle muncher (vmstat: make vmstat_updater deferrable) " Michal Hocko
2016-01-27 17:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-01-27 18:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 15:21 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 16:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 16:53 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 17:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 15:31 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 15:37 ` [PATCH] vmstat: make vmstat_update deferrable (was: Re: [PATCH] mm, vmstat: make quiet_vmstat lighter) " Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-28 16:42 ` [PATCH] mm, vmstat: make quiet_vmstat lighter (was: Re: fast " Christoph Lameter
2016-01-24 16:57 ` mm, vmstat: kernel BUG at mm/vmstat.c:1408! Linus Torvalds
2016-01-24 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-20 15:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-01-20 15:20 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 15:20 ` Michal Hocko
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