From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen
<jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Cc: open list <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] tpm: expose spaces via a device link /dev/tpms<n>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 08:02:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1487941328.2249.23.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170223090917.jq7thil5ggjmagil-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, 2017-02-23 at 11:09 +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 09:25:19PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > Currently the tpm spaces are not exposed to userspace. Make this
> > exposure via a separate device, which can now be opened multiple
> > times because each read/write transaction goes separately via the
> > space.
> >
> > Concurrency is protected by the chip->tpm_mutex for each read/write
> > transaction separately. The TPM is cleared of all transient
> > objects by the time the mutex is dropped, so there should be no
> > interference between the kernel and userspace.
> > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley <
> >
> > James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1Jfhevp4ocFNHEFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
> Reviewed-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkine-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
> Tested-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkine-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Thanks!
> Nitpicking but I've been thinking about naming. What about calling
> the device as tpmrc0 as in resource context. I think that would be a
> better name than TPM space.
Well the original name was tpmrm<n> for TPM with Resource Manager. You
wanted it to be tpms<n> for TPM with Spaces.
I'm not entirely sold on the Resource Context name ... I think Resource Manager (because it's what the TCG calls it) or Spaces (because it's what all the code comments call it) are better. Resource Context sounds like what TPM2_SaveContext() creates for you rather than the interface.
> You do not mix it up with namespaces and/or virtualization. With
> resource in front it cannot be easily mixed up with TPM contexts
> either.
I'm a containers person. What this set of patches does is precisely OS
level virtualization in my book, so I don't think you need to pretend
it is't; and OS level virtualization is what a namespace does. The
only difference between this and the other kernel namespaces is that
you get a new namespace automatically when you open the device and you
can't enter an existing namespace.
I think therefore that tpmns<n> for TPM Namespace would be very
appropriate.
> This does not require any effort from your side. I could do the
> renaming.
>
> PS. Could you go through my commits and test and review them at some
> point so we would have the whole patch set peer tested?
Already reviewed, just doing a test build (I'm travelling, so it
actually has to be on my physical laptop).
James
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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
Marcel Selhorst <tpmdd@selhorst.net>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] tpm: expose spaces via a device link /dev/tpms<n>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 08:02:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1487941328.2249.23.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170223090917.jq7thil5ggjmagil@intel.com>
On Thu, 2017-02-23 at 11:09 +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 09:25:19PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
> >
> > Currently the tpm spaces are not exposed to userspace. Make this
> > exposure via a separate device, which can now be opened multiple
> > times because each read/write transaction goes separately via the
> > space.
> >
> > Concurrency is protected by the chip->tpm_mutex for each read/write
> > transaction separately. The TPM is cleared of all transient
> > objects by the time the mutex is dropped, so there should be no
> > interference between the kernel and userspace.
> > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley <
> >
> > James.Bottomley@HansenPartnershp.com>
> Reviewed-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkine@linux.intel.com>
> Tested-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkine@linux.intel.com>
Thanks!
> Nitpicking but I've been thinking about naming. What about calling
> the device as tpmrc0 as in resource context. I think that would be a
> better name than TPM space.
Well the original name was tpmrm<n> for TPM with Resource Manager. You
wanted it to be tpms<n> for TPM with Spaces.
I'm not entirely sold on the Resource Context name ... I think Resource Manager (because it's what the TCG calls it) or Spaces (because it's what all the code comments call it) are better. Resource Context sounds like what TPM2_SaveContext() creates for you rather than the interface.
> You do not mix it up with namespaces and/or virtualization. With
> resource in front it cannot be easily mixed up with TPM contexts
> either.
I'm a containers person. What this set of patches does is precisely OS
level virtualization in my book, so I don't think you need to pretend
it is't; and OS level virtualization is what a namespace does. The
only difference between this and the other kernel namespaces is that
you get a new namespace automatically when you open the device and you
can't enter an existing namespace.
I think therefore that tpmns<n> for TPM Namespace would be very
appropriate.
> This does not require any effort from your side. I could do the
> renaming.
>
> PS. Could you go through my commits and test and review them at some
> point so we would have the whole patch set peer tested?
Already reviewed, just doing a test build (I'm travelling, so it
actually has to be on my physical laptop).
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-24 13:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-16 19:25 [PATCH v2 0/7] in-kernel resource manager Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20170216192529.25467-1-jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-16 19:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] tpm: move length validation to tpm_transmit() Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] tpm: validate TPM 2.0 commands Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] tpm: export tpm2_flush_context_cmd Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] tpm: infrastructure for TPM spaces Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-21 18:24 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Nayna
2017-02-22 17:39 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-22 20:56 ` Ken Goldman
2017-03-22 20:09 ` Ken Goldman
2017-03-22 20:09 ` Ken Goldman
2017-03-22 20:09 ` Ken Goldman
2017-03-23 15:56 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-03-23 15:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <58AC85F2.5000406-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-22 17:08 ` Ken Goldman
2017-02-22 17:08 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Ken Goldman
2017-02-22 21:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-22 21:08 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-24 12:53 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-24 17:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] tpm: split out tpm-dev.c into tpm-dev.c and tpm-common-dev.c Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20170216192529.25467-6-jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-23 9:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-23 9:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] tpm2: add session handle context saving and restoring to the space code Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-23 9:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] tpm: expose spaces via a device link /dev/tpms<n> Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-23 9:09 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20170223090917.jq7thil5ggjmagil-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 13:02 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2017-02-24 13:02 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-24 17:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20170224173922.qwuhfxeitbyct52o-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 18:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 18:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 20:29 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1487968155.2190.14.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 20:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 20:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 23:01 ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-02-24 23:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170224232327.GA9126-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 23:43 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-24 23:43 ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-02-25 0:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170225002514.GA10605-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-25 17:04 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-25 17:04 ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1488042289.2250.22.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 17:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-27 17:28 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-26 11:44 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-26 18:30 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
[not found] ` <20170226183040.GA4272-DHO+NtfOqB5PEDpkEIzg7wC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 17:22 ` Ken Goldman
2017-02-28 17:22 ` Ken Goldman
[not found] ` <20170226114440.5ksg3lx27ylekvbx-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 17:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-27 17:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 6:59 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Nayna
2017-02-24 12:53 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1487940829.2249.15.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 11:46 ` Nayna
2017-02-27 11:46 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Nayna
[not found] ` <58B41184.7020200-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 14:55 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-27 14:55 ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
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