From: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Dmitry Safonov <dsafonov@virtuozzo.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
"Shanbhogue, Vedvyas" <vedvyas.shanbhogue@intel.com>,
"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
mike.kravetz@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] x86/cet: Signal handling for shadow stack
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:51:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1528401060.5265.4.camel@2b52.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b920019-cf03-334c-3b6a-b2c6b7f4dfa3@redhat.com>
On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 20:58 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 06/07/2018 08:30 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 7:41 AM Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Set and restore shadow stack pointer for signals.
> >
> > How does this interact with siglongjmp()?
>
> We plan to use some unused signal mask bits in the jump buffer (we have
> a lot of those in glibc for some reason) to store the shadow stack pointer.
>
> > This patch makes me extremely nervous due to the possibility of ABI
> > issues and CRIU breakage.
> >
> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h
> >> index 844d60eb1882..6c8997a0156a 100644
> >> --- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h
> >> +++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h
> >> @@ -230,6 +230,7 @@ struct sigcontext_32 {
> >> __u32 fpstate; /* Zero when no FPU/extended context */
> >> __u32 oldmask;
> >> __u32 cr2;
> >> + __u32 ssp;
> >> };
> >>
> >> /*
> >> @@ -262,6 +263,7 @@ struct sigcontext_64 {
> >> __u64 trapno;
> >> __u64 oldmask;
> >> __u64 cr2;
> >> + __u64 ssp;
> >>
> >> /*
> >> * fpstate is really (struct _fpstate *) or (struct _xstate *)
> >> @@ -320,6 +322,7 @@ struct sigcontext {
> >> struct _fpstate __user *fpstate;
> >> __u32 oldmask;
> >> __u32 cr2;
> >> + __u32 ssp;
> >
> > Is it actually okay to modify these structures like this? They're
> > part of the user ABI, and I don't know whether any user code relies on
> > the size being constant.
>
> Probably not. Historically, these things have been tacked at the end of
> the floating point state, see struct _xstate:
>
> /* New processor state extensions go here: */
>
> However, I'm not sure if this is really ideal because I doubt that
> everyone who needs the shadow stack pointer also wants to sacrifice
> space for the AVX-512 save area (which is already a backwards
> compatibility hazard). Other architectures have variable offsets and
> some TLV-style setup here.
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
I will move 'ssp' to _xstate for now, and look for other ways.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Dmitry Safonov <dsafonov@virtuozzo.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
"Shanbhogue, Vedvyas" <vedvyas.shanbhogue@intel.com>,
"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
mike.kravetz@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] x86/cet: Signal handling for shadow stack
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:51:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1528401060.5265.4.camel@2b52.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b920019-cf03-334c-3b6a-b2c6b7f4dfa3@redhat.com>
On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 20:58 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 06/07/2018 08:30 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 7:41 AM Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Set and restore shadow stack pointer for signals.
> >
> > How does this interact with siglongjmp()?
>
> We plan to use some unused signal mask bits in the jump buffer (we have
> a lot of those in glibc for some reason) to store the shadow stack pointer.
>
> > This patch makes me extremely nervous due to the possibility of ABI
> > issues and CRIU breakage.
> >
> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h
> >> index 844d60eb1882..6c8997a0156a 100644
> >> --- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h
> >> +++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h
> >> @@ -230,6 +230,7 @@ struct sigcontext_32 {
> >> __u32 fpstate; /* Zero when no FPU/extended context */
> >> __u32 oldmask;
> >> __u32 cr2;
> >> + __u32 ssp;
> >> };
> >>
> >> /*
> >> @@ -262,6 +263,7 @@ struct sigcontext_64 {
> >> __u64 trapno;
> >> __u64 oldmask;
> >> __u64 cr2;
> >> + __u64 ssp;
> >>
> >> /*
> >> * fpstate is really (struct _fpstate *) or (struct _xstate *)
> >> @@ -320,6 +322,7 @@ struct sigcontext {
> >> struct _fpstate __user *fpstate;
> >> __u32 oldmask;
> >> __u32 cr2;
> >> + __u32 ssp;
> >
> > Is it actually okay to modify these structures like this? They're
> > part of the user ABI, and I don't know whether any user code relies on
> > the size being constant.
>
> Probably not. Historically, these things have been tacked at the end of
> the floating point state, see struct _xstate:
>
> /* New processor state extensions go here: */
>
> However, I'm not sure if this is really ideal because I doubt that
> everyone who needs the shadow stack pointer also wants to sacrifice
> space for the AVX-512 save area (which is already a backwards
> compatibility hazard). Other architectures have variable offsets and
> some TLV-style setup here.
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
I will move 'ssp' to _xstate for now, and look for other ways.
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2018-06-07 14:37 [PATCH 00/10] Control Flow Enforcement - Part (3) Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:37 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:37 ` [PATCH 01/10] x86/cet: User-mode shadow stack support Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:37 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 16:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 16:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 17:46 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 17:46 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 17:55 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-07 17:55 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-07 18:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 18:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 11:56 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-12 11:56 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-12 15:03 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 15:03 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:37 ` [PATCH 02/10] x86/cet: Introduce WRUSS instruction Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:37 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 16:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 16:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 16:51 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 16:51 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 18:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-07 18:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-07 20:31 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:31 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-11 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-11 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-11 15:02 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-11 15:02 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-14 1:30 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-14 1:30 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-14 14:43 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-14 14:43 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` [PATCH 03/10] x86/cet: Signal handling for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 18:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 18:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 18:58 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-07 18:58 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-07 19:51 ` Yu-cheng Yu [this message]
2018-06-07 19:51 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:07 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-06-07 20:07 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-06-07 20:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 20:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 12:07 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-06-08 12:07 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-06-07 20:12 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:12 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:17 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-07 20:17 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-07 14:38 ` [PATCH 04/10] x86/cet: Handle thread " Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 18:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 18:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 19:47 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-07 19:47 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-07 19:47 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-07 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 14:53 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-08 14:53 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-08 14:53 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-08 15:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 15:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 15:50 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-08 15:50 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-08 15:50 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` [PATCH 05/10] x86/cet: ELF header parsing of Control Flow Enforcement Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 18:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 18:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 20:40 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:40 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` [PATCH 06/10] x86/cet: Add arch_prctl functions for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 18:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 18:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 20:30 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:30 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 21:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 21:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 22:02 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-07 22:02 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-07 23:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 23:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 4:09 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-08 4:09 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-08 4:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 4:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 12:24 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-08 12:24 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-08 14:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 14:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 15:52 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-06-08 15:52 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-06-08 4:22 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-08 4:22 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-08 4:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 4:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-08 12:17 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-08 12:17 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-12 10:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-12 10:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-12 11:43 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-12 11:43 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-12 16:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 16:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 16:05 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-12 16:05 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-12 16:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 16:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 16:51 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-12 16:51 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-12 18:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-12 18:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-12 19:34 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-12 19:34 ` H.J. Lu
2018-06-18 22:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-18 22:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-19 0:52 ` Kees Cook
2018-06-19 0:52 ` Kees Cook
2018-06-19 6:40 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-19 6:40 ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-19 14:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-19 14:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-19 16:44 ` Kees Cook
2018-06-19 16:44 ` Kees Cook
2018-06-19 16:59 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-19 16:59 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-19 16:59 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-19 17:07 ` Kees Cook
2018-06-19 17:07 ` Kees Cook
2018-06-19 17:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-19 17:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-19 20:12 ` Kees Cook
2018-06-19 20:12 ` Kees Cook
2018-06-19 20:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-19 20:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-19 22:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-19 22:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-19 22:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-20 0:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-20 0:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-21 23:07 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-21 23:07 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-21 23:07 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: Prevent mprotect from changing " Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: Prevent mremap of " Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 18:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 18:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 20:18 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:18 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: Prevent madvise from changing " Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 20:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 21:09 ` Nadav Amit
2018-06-07 21:09 ` Nadav Amit
2018-06-07 21:18 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 21:18 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 21:18 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: Prevent munmap and remap_file_pages of " Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 14:38 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 18:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 18:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-07 20:15 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-07 20:15 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 10:56 ` [PATCH 00/10] Control Flow Enforcement - Part (3) Balbir Singh
2018-06-12 10:56 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-12 15:03 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 15:03 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 16:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 16:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 16:21 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 16:21 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 16:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 16:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-12 17:24 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 17:24 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 20:15 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-12 20:15 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-14 1:07 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-14 1:07 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-14 14:56 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-14 14:56 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-17 3:16 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-17 3:16 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-18 21:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-18 21:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-19 8:52 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-19 8:52 ` Balbir Singh
2018-06-26 2:46 ` Jann Horn
2018-06-26 2:46 ` Jann Horn
2018-06-26 14:56 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-26 14:56 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-26 14:56 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-26 5:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-26 5:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-26 14:56 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-26 14:56 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-06-26 14:56 ` Yu-cheng Yu
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