From: John Stoffel <stoffel@casc.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Rob Landley <landley@trommello.org>,
"Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:59:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <15375.41990.439405.8024@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0112061447560.1282-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
In-Reply-To: <20011206001558.OQCD485.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0112061447560.1282-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
Rik> IMHO it's not acceptable that people upgrading from one 2.4
Rik> kernel to the next will have to install Python 2 on their
Rik> machine.
So has anyone had time to test the Python version 1.5 based CML2 that
was posted? Would that make it more acceptable?
Rik> Security bugs are and will be discovered, you cannot make it
Rik> impossible for people to do security upgrades.
This is a bogus arguement, since I could say the same about installing
new kernels. There could (and will) be security problems with the
kernel, so we should not release new ones until we have proved they
are correct.
Yeah, I'm being a pain here, but Rik is making a bad arguement here.
Rik> Yes, I agree the method you're using to smuggle CML2 into a
Rik> stable kernel is insidious. Please stop it.
I think you're being too harsh here. Smuggling is not happening here,
it's been very aboveboard that CML2 might (I repeat MIGHT) be
back-ported to the 2.4 series of kernels. But since it would happen
in the -pre tree, there would be plenty of notice. And people could
complain then.
The requirement for python2 is a bit of a pain, but hey, for 2.5, it's
not a problem.
John
John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies
stoffel@lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-12-06 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-12-03 1:06 Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 Keith Owens
2001-12-03 1:19 ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-03 2:03 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 0:22 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 0:52 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 11:04 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 11:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 12:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 12:21 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05 11:15 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-04 12:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 12:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 12:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 12:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 12:48 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 13:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 13:16 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 13:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 15:40 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 16:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 16:33 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:03 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:38 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 17:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:03 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-04 19:04 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:43 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 19:48 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 19:53 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 20:03 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 19:57 ` Mike Castle
2001-12-04 19:59 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 20:11 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 20:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 21:03 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 22:10 ` Trevor Smith
2001-12-04 22:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 20:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-12-05 3:14 ` John Cowan
2001-12-05 4:36 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-05 14:54 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-05 14:51 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 0:37 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-06 16:49 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-06 9:57 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 16:59 ` John Stoffel [this message]
2001-12-06 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 10:03 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-07 0:06 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-07 0:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-06 20:24 ` [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.4 " Rob Landley
2001-12-07 1:44 ` [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 " Tom Rini
2001-12-06 18:30 ` John Stoffel
2001-12-06 18:51 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-06 18:59 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-06 19:14 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-06 22:17 ` John Cowan
2001-12-07 14:44 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-07 15:56 ` John Alvord
2001-12-10 9:55 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-07 18:12 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-07 0:58 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-06 18:07 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-06 18:22 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-06 19:10 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-05 1:59 ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-05 8:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05 10:17 ` CML2 with python1 Jan Harkes
2001-12-12 7:17 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-14 12:50 ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-04 17:15 ` [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 17:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:38 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:01 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:47 ` Robert Love
2001-12-04 19:28 ` Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
2001-12-04 17:20 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:27 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 18:13 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 18:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:27 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 19:19 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2001-12-04 19:24 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-05 11:06 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 16:41 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 16:52 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 17:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:15 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-05 1:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 17:02 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:08 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:19 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 16:31 ` John Stoffel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-04 17:08 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:17 ` Jakob Kemi
2001-12-04 18:22 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 18:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05 2:30 ` Greg Banks
2001-12-05 10:02 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:46 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 18:43 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:27 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-05 1:17 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-07 5:22 ` Stevie O
2001-12-04 17:11 Wayne.Brown
2001-12-04 17:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:46 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 18:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:24 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 23:00 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 23:05 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 23:21 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 17:18 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2001-12-04 17:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-05 3:21 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-04 18:30 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:50 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 20:07 ` Robert Love
2001-12-04 21:23 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-05 1:26 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-05 16:14 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 0:37 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:38 Wayne.Brown
2001-12-04 18:50 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:50 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-05 1:29 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 19:06 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
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