From: "RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado" <raul@viadomus.com>
To: raul@viadomus.com, trini@kernel.crashing.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:50:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16BKeT-0001zt-00@DervishD.viadomus.com> (raw)
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Hi Tom :))
>> Why must I install Python in order to compile the kernel? I don't
>> understand this. I think there are better alternatives, but kbuild
>> seems to be imposed any way.
>kbuild != CML2.
Yes, sorry, just a mental shortcircuit ;))
>It all boils down to the current 'language' having no
>real definitive spec, and having 3+ incompatible parsers.
Yes, I know and I think that is a good thing to have a good
configuration language, and it means having a good specification and
a good parser. Just I don't think that 6Mb-Python is a good way to
write a good parser. Well, I'm sure that I cannot do better (right
now), so I don't want to flame anyone with this, just want to show my
opinion (shared by many, although) and show the negative points of
having Python as a dependence.
>The spec for CML2 is out there, and there's even a CML2-in-C project.
How advanced? Where is the spec, please?
>that project out and then convince Linus to include it.
Hard job... Convincing Linus, I mean ;)))
>> The kernel should depend just on the compiler and assembler, IMHO.
>The right tools for the right job. C is good for the kernel. Python is
>good at manipulating strings.
Well, IMHO Python is good only in being big and doing things
slow, but... why the parser cannot be built over flex/bison?. That
way it can be 'pregenerated' and people won't need additional tools
to build the kernel.
Raúl
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Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-12-04 18:50 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado [this message]
2001-12-04 18:50 ` [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 Tom Rini
2001-12-05 1:29 ` Matthias Andree
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2001-12-04 19:06 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:38 Wayne.Brown
2001-12-04 18:30 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:50 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 20:07 ` Robert Love
2001-12-04 21:23 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-05 1:26 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-05 16:14 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 0:37 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:18 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2001-12-04 17:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-05 3:21 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-04 17:11 Wayne.Brown
2001-12-04 17:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:46 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 18:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:24 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 23:00 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 23:05 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 23:21 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 17:08 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-04 18:17 ` Jakob Kemi
2001-12-04 18:22 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 18:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05 2:30 ` Greg Banks
2001-12-05 10:02 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:46 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 18:43 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:27 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-05 1:17 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-07 5:22 ` Stevie O
2001-12-03 1:06 Keith Owens
2001-12-03 1:19 ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-03 2:03 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 0:22 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 0:52 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-04 11:04 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 11:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 12:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 12:21 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-05 11:15 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-04 12:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 12:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 12:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 12:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 12:48 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 13:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 13:16 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 13:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 15:40 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 16:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 16:33 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:03 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:38 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 17:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 19:03 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-04 19:04 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:43 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 19:48 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 19:53 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 20:03 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-04 19:57 ` Mike Castle
2001-12-04 19:59 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 20:11 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-04 20:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 21:03 ` Edward Muller
2001-12-04 22:10 ` Trevor Smith
2001-12-04 22:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 20:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-12-05 3:14 ` John Cowan
2001-12-05 4:36 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-12-05 14:54 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-05 14:51 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 0:37 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-06 16:49 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-06 9:57 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-06 16:59 ` John Stoffel
2001-12-06 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 10:03 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-07 0:06 ` Keith Owens
2001-12-07 0:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-07 1:44 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-06 18:30 ` John Stoffel
2001-12-06 18:51 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-06 18:59 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-06 19:14 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-06 22:17 ` John Cowan
2001-12-07 14:44 ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-07 15:56 ` John Alvord
2001-12-10 9:55 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-07 18:12 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-07 0:58 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-06 18:07 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-06 18:22 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-06 19:10 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 17:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-04 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 17:38 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 18:01 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:47 ` Robert Love
2001-12-04 19:28 ` Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
2001-12-04 17:20 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-04 17:27 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 18:13 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 18:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:27 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-04 19:19 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2001-12-04 19:24 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-05 11:06 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-04 16:41 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 16:52 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-12-04 17:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:15 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-05 1:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 17:02 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:08 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 17:19 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-04 17:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-04 16:31 ` John Stoffel
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